"There's no middle ground on abortion when there's a number of people that won't even accept the abortion of a fetus that is already dead."
You're missing my argument here.
You are highlighting an example of an 'extremist' view - this doesn't in any way indicate there is 'no common' ground.
Maybe own views on abortion might have triggered you to miss this (?) and that there are extremists on the 'other end of the spectrum' - there are those who believe that a baby, near the point of being born, possibly even 'past due' is merely a 'fetus' and should have no rights.
3rd trimester abortions are quite rare, but they do exist and there are some who push for them.
The point is that abortion, which is a really difficult moral issue with extremism on either side, actually does have a huge common ground.
The vast majority of Americans, outside of hyperbole, would essentially accept 'early abortions' as fairly unambiguously acceptable. Beyond that, it would be more contentious.
The 'hard anti-abortion' camp would obviously not like that, and the 'hard fetus is only a fetus' camp would be livid that there were restrictions on later abortions.
But the 'centre ground' would hold, at least in terms of popular acceptance.
Of course it won't happen because the 'far sides' war with each other on it. We may, over decades, arrive at some kind of result that looks like that, we mostly already have.
"I personally know someone who firmly believes that an immigrant overstaying their visa has committed a crime, is now a criminal, and they (and their family) need to be deported immediately."
Again - this kind of misses the 'centre ground' argument.
That you know someone who thinks 'any overstay should be aborted' only indicates that there are people who feel strongly about it.
It says nothing about the 'common ground'.
Here is the evidence [1]. Even a majority of Republicans support DACA.
I'd encourage everyone to spend a lot of time in Pew Research, it's amazing. There are a lot of surveys in there with respect to so many issues that one might find surprising.
It is frankly Pew Research that has made be understand how much common ground their is, and my OP is really based on quite some time perusing that data - I should have probably referred to it - but on every one if the issues I highlighted, there's Pew data to support it.
Okay, I think I see your point now. Basically, the extremes will never be pleased, but solutions exist that will please the majority of the population.
You're missing my argument here.
You are highlighting an example of an 'extremist' view - this doesn't in any way indicate there is 'no common' ground.
Maybe own views on abortion might have triggered you to miss this (?) and that there are extremists on the 'other end of the spectrum' - there are those who believe that a baby, near the point of being born, possibly even 'past due' is merely a 'fetus' and should have no rights.
3rd trimester abortions are quite rare, but they do exist and there are some who push for them.
The point is that abortion, which is a really difficult moral issue with extremism on either side, actually does have a huge common ground.
The vast majority of Americans, outside of hyperbole, would essentially accept 'early abortions' as fairly unambiguously acceptable. Beyond that, it would be more contentious.
The 'hard anti-abortion' camp would obviously not like that, and the 'hard fetus is only a fetus' camp would be livid that there were restrictions on later abortions.
But the 'centre ground' would hold, at least in terms of popular acceptance.
Of course it won't happen because the 'far sides' war with each other on it. We may, over decades, arrive at some kind of result that looks like that, we mostly already have.
"I personally know someone who firmly believes that an immigrant overstaying their visa has committed a crime, is now a criminal, and they (and their family) need to be deported immediately."
Again - this kind of misses the 'centre ground' argument.
That you know someone who thinks 'any overstay should be aborted' only indicates that there are people who feel strongly about it.
It says nothing about the 'common ground'.
Here is the evidence [1]. Even a majority of Republicans support DACA.
I'd encourage everyone to spend a lot of time in Pew Research, it's amazing. There are a lot of surveys in there with respect to so many issues that one might find surprising.
It is frankly Pew Research that has made be understand how much common ground their is, and my OP is really based on quite some time perusing that data - I should have probably referred to it - but on every one if the issues I highlighted, there's Pew data to support it.
Here's some data on policing [2]
[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/06/17/americans-b...
[2] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/06/05/a-month-bef...