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So, here we have one minority out hunting for another minority in the middle of Europe. Incidentally muslims out looking for christians.

I can't think of anything good to say about this at all from any perspective.




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I get what you're saying but on an important topic, let's keep HN a place to have more valuable conversations. I let myself make snarky comments on some topics to be honest but for sensitive political matter it would be better not to play this way.


While I understand that this is a sarcastic comment, I actually think that diversity is our greatest strength.

Others seem to wonder how we could thrive despite people speaking out against the state, the concept of traditional families being put in question by sexual freedom and other liberal ideas, I think we thrive because of them. We do not put invisible societal cages around people, we encourage them to be what they are and let them realize their full potential while elsewhere, people are doing busywork to do as society expects them to do. (This is exaggerated - of course there are also a lot of things that societally unacceptable here but it does not seem as limiting as elsewhere.)


The concept of "minority" is bogus. Turkey is the largest nation in Europe.

EDIT: after the comments below, Turkey is the second largest nation, after Russia. Still impossible to construe Turks as a minority group.


Turks are a minority in France, where those events are taking place.


They are certainly not a minority in Europe, where this happened, and which is the context of the message I was replying to.

They may not be a minority on certain French suburbs, maybe on the place where this happened? They are obviously not a minority on the very street where the described "hunt" is taking place.

Along the nested hierarchy of subsets of Europe that are in question, "France" may be the sole level at which they can be bona-fide called a minority.


If Turkey is a large nation in Europe, the largest nation in Europe is Russia.


Still boggles my mind how Russia is considered as Europe... 70% of their country is located in asia. As seems to be their thinking.


40% percent of Europe is Russia, that's how.


To be fair, 75% of their population is in Europe.


So it is 50/50 :)


A small part of Turkey is on the European continent, but calling Turkey a "nation in Europe" is ridiculous.


They seems to me to be equivalent statements. Why would a country in Europe not be a nation in Europe?


Turkey isn't a country in Europe is what I'm trying to say. ~3% of Turkey is in Europe, the rest of it is in Asia (which gives Turkey its geopolitical importance), and it's political orientation has historically always been in Asia (which makes sense, given that the Turks didn't originate in Turkey, but conquered the area in the middle ages; they stem from central Asia).

"Russia is a country in Europe" is similarly weird, even though ~25% of the land (including their two major cities, and ~75% of the population iirc) is in Europe and historically, Russia was much more involved in Europe than Turkey.


In Europe is in Europe, and as well in Asia. I don't think the fraction is very relevant. And if history is important, the Ottoman empire has a history very much involved with the rest of Europe.


Think of Venn Diagrams, only part of Turkey is part of Europe. There's overlap, but one isn't inside the other. Turkey is, like Russia, considered a transcontinental country. They aren't "in" either continent, but part of them is.

> And if history is important, the Ottoman empire has a history very much involved with the rest of Europe.

As an adversary/attacker, yes. But that's not a reasonable foundation for declaring membership.


Um... What about Russia?




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