> it's not that I don't care. It that I am realistic about the situation. I
imo you are perhaps realistic about the present situation, in a closed way where experimenting is not worth your time. I don't think you've made much affordance for the progress & success & accomplishment, and I don't think you've recognized any of the good points of diversity, of value at stake here. this isn't at all an unreasonable contemporary stance towards the situation, but it's also considering only the real & not the possible, not the fruits that open source & cross-platform has been working towards.
> In any event it is important for people to be informed by the pitfalls.
agreed that this is a value. but I don't think people should have to take such thesis (Linux gaming good getting better) and antithesis (Linux gaming bad will not do waste of time) & smash together their own synthesis. I'd like to see some recognition that you do think there are worthy & compelling reasons for Linux gaming and/or tech like proton. I have tried, amid my "platitudes" to accept some dings, but I have not seen any places where you acknowledge or realize that there maybe something good for humanity at stake here. is there anything you could offer that shows that your realism also has a sense of the possible & virtuous here?
Yikes and whoa, you can't do this kind of flamewar comment on HN! We're trying for something very different here.
Would you mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of this site to heart? You're welcome to keep posting if you'll do that. We have to moderate and ban accounts that won't, however, because they destroy the community and curious conversation that HN is meant for.
> Good for humanity? We are talking about video games. It is just entertainment we are talking about. Get a grip!
I picture you decrying the same thing about the telephone, in 1949 when the us government sued at&t & forced them to sell off Western Electric, the maker of telephones. And again in 1959 when Carterphone was created & AT&T sued, forbidding anyone else from connecting their own devices. It's just a telephone! What harm is there in consumers being forced to use only no-fuss officially endorsed solutions. You can say whatever you want, do whatever you want, as long as you say it & do it with an AT&T product.
There are limits to innovation & diversity, & when left to rot, when too protected, systems ossify & stagnate. Beyond the scary platform wars afoot, I think Linux has absolutely cutting edge drivers in some places that can do things absolutely no other tech out there can. DMA-BUF & PipeWire are in early early days but already showing incredibly promising zero-copy streaming that few if any can replicate, for example. Linux drivers push advanced features to devices that mainstream support has moved past years ago, while increasingly offering best of breed implementations of cutting edge features & rapid adoption of Vulkan standards & extensions.
The other topic worth mentioning is systems like Stadia, which is Linux based. Maybe that wasn't necessary, but it is a strong indicator to me that Linux is an interesting & worthwhile place for gaming. That there's interesting stories of system utilization & decreasing latency that no other platform could have provided. New frontiers are possible, because the platform is not closed, and that enables new interesting gaming to emerge.
imo you are perhaps realistic about the present situation, in a closed way where experimenting is not worth your time. I don't think you've made much affordance for the progress & success & accomplishment, and I don't think you've recognized any of the good points of diversity, of value at stake here. this isn't at all an unreasonable contemporary stance towards the situation, but it's also considering only the real & not the possible, not the fruits that open source & cross-platform has been working towards.
> In any event it is important for people to be informed by the pitfalls.
agreed that this is a value. but I don't think people should have to take such thesis (Linux gaming good getting better) and antithesis (Linux gaming bad will not do waste of time) & smash together their own synthesis. I'd like to see some recognition that you do think there are worthy & compelling reasons for Linux gaming and/or tech like proton. I have tried, amid my "platitudes" to accept some dings, but I have not seen any places where you acknowledge or realize that there maybe something good for humanity at stake here. is there anything you could offer that shows that your realism also has a sense of the possible & virtuous here?