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The answer is yes.

I'll never understand why so many people believe that if something isn't perfect, it's broken.

All one has to do is read a single article discussing law enforcement finding and preventing a bomb or a shooter to know that our laws are, in fact, preventing these scenarios. They're just not preventing all of the them.

And you know what? That's good. Freedom has inherent risk. I don't want to live in a society where we're so unfree that our laws are able to prevent all crime.




> All one has to do is read a single article discussing law enforcement finding and preventing a bomb or a shooter to know that our laws are, in fact, preventing these scenarios

I don't find articles like this very often. I do find many articles of cia and fbi failure, of the nsa trampling constitutional freedoms, of tsa failing 98% of audits though.


that you've found even a single one means the laws do, in fact, prevent these things from happening.

That's just how logic works.


Okay but at what cost? Perhaps they're creating far more problems than they solve? To take from your argument, freedom comes with risks. If we have to risk the occasional sociopathic murderer and in return not have to worry about being shot by the national guard for the crime of standing on our porch, maybe that's a valid trade off.


You asked a question, I answered it.

I'm not interested in going on a tangent because you had a political agenda behind your question.

The question has been answered.


A political agenda? We're here discussing politics. The bad faith version of what just happened is "look, slavery just works, ok? Is it cheap labor? Yes. Question answered."

To try to wade into this discussion with an absolute refusal to look at a broad picture of small pieces is nonsensical. How can you talk about preventing mass shootings with a simple statement of "yes, obviously laws and police prevent mass shootings?" You know what else does? A lack of guns. Or, maybe, really good mental health care and social welfare. Or, common sense gun control laws. Or... Etc.

By the way, I reject the notion that the FBI actually prevents these things. You look into the story and it's like, they found some vet with PTSD ranting about Jewish conspiracy theories on obscure web forums, then they reach out to the guy and foment him into a terrorist, then arrest him when he tries to buy a gun. Meanwhile 3 schools have been shot up by kids with guns.

Political agenda, come on. What an obnoxious thing to have said to me on this forum.


We went from an article about the philosophy of anarchism to a question of how laws prevent crimes, then onto slavery I guess?

I would almost bet your next post will include a comparison to either hitler or nazi's.

Either way, I'm certainly done engaging. Not of fan of escalation because you lost the point.


What was even the point of replying? Did you just engage to say "uh, DUH laws do things!" Come on.




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