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"If paged, you have 15 minutes to get online and respond to the page. If you don’t, your manager is paged. You do NOT want this to happen."

I want it to happen. I'd like a word.




> I want it to happen. I'd like a word.

You could be shown the door in no-time. Amazon has forced attrition and the manager decides who gets the cull. They may make a mountain out of a mole to further their objectives.


As someone who came from a similar environment (MSFT during the stack ranking days), the forced attrition and manager's arbitrarily blackballing employees are the ingredients of the toxic stew. If a manager hates your guts, there's really nothing you can do, even if you are great at your job.


Does your manager love your guts? Are you good at your job? Hopefully that paycheck can bleach the guilt of your colleagues losing their jobs because you are good at yours. That toxicity could also be because they are either selecting or creating people who are okay with this.


Yes, yes, and thankfully I left that environment. Now I work in the public sector, I guess you could say. Mostly because of the gas-lighting of reviews and performance "feedback." I've been on both sides of it, and seeing that I'm the same person, it really made it obvious how arbitrary it is.

I feel like it's common wisdom now that forced culling is not a great strategy and has lots of perverse incentives, but still not universal.


> Amazon has forced attrition

Do you know how they implement it? Is it the old Microsoft model with obligatory bell curve distribution of performance reviews?


Every org of, say, 100 people has a quota of X poor performers that they need to produce to senior management every year.

Each manager of, say, 10 people rates their own reports.

The managers in the org compare notes, and count up how many poor performers they have between them.

If the number is below X, managers who did not downrate enough people are told to go back, and find more people to give bad ratings to.

If they can't find those people, that's fine - then those managers will get downrated.


> Every org of, say, 100 people has a quota of X poor performers that they need to produce to senior management every year.

OK, that's what I meant. Thank you.

I was part (as a manager) of a smallish org that started doing that after being acquired by a big corpo. I just left :)




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