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How does socialized healthcare change food manuf incentives?

I do also wonder about where it makes sense to draw the line when it comes to nutrition policy. We all share finite healthcare resources, especially as it becomes more socialized.

I think at the very least it becomes even more obviously predatory for you to make money off peddling addictive junk food to the masses. I would start there when thinking of helpful policy. Though things get ethically questionable very quickly.

Might be more helpful to look into why 7/11 in Japan is full of so much healthy food compared to 7/11 in USA where you're lucky to find a shrink-wrapped apple, and what kind of cultural shift is needed to bring about that change. I feel like that difference summarizes why we are so screwed. We've lost the plot somewhere along the line.



It doesn't change much in fact. That's why several prominent socialized healthcare nations are extremely obese just like the US.

That includes: Britain, Ireland, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Greece, Israel.

All have adult obesity levels around or over 25%. Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Britain are among the most obese nations on the planet - despite having world-class socialized healthcare systems.

When it comes to adult obesity among major nations (ie not Tuvalu or Tonga), New Zealand is #11, Canada is #13, Australia is #14, Britain is #20.

The only way you can really control that as the parent was trying to imply, is through direct government control of all food consumption and production.


> through direct government control of all food consumption and production

This is an alarmist representation. Incentives can work just fine in a market-driven economic system, witness the most recent tax cuts that were passed into law. Would a generous tax cut for stores that sell mostly fresh food be that bad?


France, too, seems to have hit a cultural inflection point. Obesity rates are quickly climbing. Maybe it's bias, but over the past several years I've also noticed several stories about how McDonalds is becoming more popular in France, as well as the flight of the middle-class out of traditional towns into suburban homes, shopping in suburban malls.


Man its a shame New Zealand has such bad obesity figures. The outdoors activities are great. Tons of great trail running/backpacking/hiking to be done




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