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Here in Norway you can buy a used 2013 Leaf with a 24 kWh battery, double the range and twice as many seats for less than that.

See https://www.finn.no/car/used/ad.html?finnkode=169083854




I love comparing apples and oranges too. You can always find an older used car that is cheaper than a new car. Now compare what one of these would cost used in 7 years.

BTW, I recently bough a new bicycle that cost more than the first car I drove (the car was a few hundred bucks).


> compare what one of these would cost used in 7 years.

Probably nothing at all, unless it becomes a collectors' item.

In comparison with other voiture sans permis like the Ligier or Aixam then it's cheap. But if we allow comparisons with non-electric vehicles then you can get a new Dacia Sandero in the UK for GBP 6 995, only about 25% more than the price of the Ami: https://www.dacia.co.uk/vehicles/sandero/configurator/summar...

Not sure what you mean about apples and oranges comparisons. Both of the objects in question are cars, both the Leaf and the Ami are electric.

The Ami is much less car so one might expect that it should be much cheaper and it is cheaper than a new Leaf or Zoe, but my point was that new cars have to compete against both new and second hand cars. The only thing the Ami has in its favour is that people without full driving licenses can drive one. A point against the Ami is that it must not be driven on motorways and other roads designated as express way. When one can buy a much better second hand car with no such restrictions for the same or lower price why would anyone buy the Ami?

Only a very tiny segment of the population would find it attractive.


Sure, but your kids can't drive the Leaf to school.


As far as I can tell no one drives cars like the Ami (Ligier, Aixam, etc.) to school here in Norway either.

Probably more likely in France. But my impression is that even there in the past they were mostly popular with people whose ordinary car license had been revoked for drunk driving.


Interesting. Do they say what is the range left for that car? I can't figure it out.


The ad doesn't mention the range or the mileage. The mileage (kilometerstand) is 138 505 km, see https://www.vegvesen.no/kjoretoy/kjop%2Bog%2Bsalg/kj%C3%B8re...

This Wikipedia article gives the original range as 121 km (EPA rating): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Leaf#2013

Anecdotal evidence on the web suggests that batteries don't lose capacity as fast as people feared.

Here is an article about a Leaf used as a taxi in Cornwall: https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/environment/2017/05/19/no-r...

Highlights:

"The car was 7kw fast-charged 3,800 times and 3.3kw trickle-charged 7,000 times during its working life at the company’s business in St Austell, Cornwall.

Mark Richards, C&C transport manager, was impressed that the Leaf retained 70% of its battery capacity after 174,000 miles and said that other than the maximum range, the performance of the vehicle is just as good as the day it was bought.

...

Wizzy had no breakdowns during its high-mileage four-year working life. Outside of scheduled annual services, the Leaf went through three sets of wipers, two sets of brake pads for the front and rear and one damper, as well as tyre replacements when necessary."

This suggests that the Leaf in the ad has most of its original range as it will not have been charged nearly so often.




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