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This sounds a lot like the Amazonian medicine Kambo, which is tree frog poison. The practitioner burns a small hole on the top layer of the recipient's skin, rubs off the burnt layer, and applies a drop of frog poison mixed with the saliva. The poison almost immediately causes an extreme lymphatic reaction that is thought to clear toxins from the body. Kambo is called the vaccine of the Amazon.

The bee sting mechanism seems much the same. Poisoning the body in order to stimulate the immune system.




My older brother received this exact treatment specifically for persistent Lyme. The procedure was repeated ten times over the course of ten days, and he claims all symptoms he had attributed to the infection were gone within a day following the second treatment. Anecdotal, I know, but I am planing on going through with the process myself once I have the time as I can personally see the difference in his energy level, and cognitive performance. I can relay questions if anyone is interested.


Came here to mention Kambo as it was my first thought too. (Kambo has been used to treat lyme disease, as well. I doubt there have been any official studies unfortunately).

Also, one doesn't _need_ to use saliva, that's usually only done due to lack of clean water in the amazon (Source: am an IAKP certified practitioner)


I've been told by a practitioner that saliva activates the kambo better than plain water, but who knows.

I've been trying kambo for ulcerative colitis over the past year. My gastroenterologist is perfectly happy to have me take a variety of medications for the rest of my life, whose safety has only been studied over a six-month period.

Western medicine gets the job done, it's true, but it's time to open our minds to Eastern medicine and so-called "folk medicine." Many of these treatments can complement Western medicine.

In my case, Traditional Chinese medicinal herbs have been clinically proven to enhance the efficacy of drugs used to treat Ulcerative Colitis


Western medicine is just defined as medicine that has been through a rigorous clinical trial process that actually proves it works.

Until these Eastern medicine have gone through the same process, it’s just anecdotal evidence.


> Western medicine is just defined as medicine that has been through a rigorous clinical trial process that actually proves it works.

Given that off-label prescriptions are a thing, it's more medicine that's been proven to a satisfactory degree to be safe enough and to work for something. Lots of Western medicine as actually applied is anecdotal.


That definition practically speaking though also has other implications. Primarily that the only medicine that even gets the opportunity to go through a clinical trial process. Some medicines are so abundant that it's hard to profit from discoveries about them.


It’s true there isn’t a financial motivation, but there are plenty of trials run with government grants.

Fact is, if they really are beneficial, physicians want to know and are willing to spend time and money to collect data.


The TCM treatment I am currently using is, in fact, proven to treat ulcerative colitis via a clinical trial.


Some can complement but many are voodoo magic with no evidence of efficacy and advocating for their adoption to the detriment in trust in actual medical science is a grave disservice to society. You might be able to tell the difference but many people can't and what you're advocating will turn many people into Steve Jobs esque avoidable disasters because they believe some practitioner with traditional knowledge who can't read an x-ray.

Think carefully about all the effects of what you're recommending


Kudos for being up to the challenge of trying Kambo, it ain't an easy medicine. Am curious about any benefits you've seen to your condition (has your doctor noticed any changes?).

Western medicine does seem more concerned with maintenance of the symptoms than treating root causes unfortunately.

Since you mentioned TCM, I'd take a hard look at medicinal mushrooms like reishi and lion's mane as they're said to help with ulcers (I'm not a doctor, definitely do your own research and ask your doctor).


I believe colloquially the call that frog “the doctor” (shown in Vice Hamilton’s Pharmacopeia https://youtu.be/C3Yd7M3JNlw)


Bad video title...You don't trip on Kambo. It doesn't contain any tryptamines and is 100% legal. You wouldn't want to smoke it

The bufo alvarius toad, however, contains 5-MeO-DMT (and a few other molecules). (And the only safe way to use that is to vape the excretion)


nit: s/excretion/secretion/ excretion is waste.


Just choked on my tea laughing. Whoops typo!




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