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PG&E will be seized for this.



And then what? Clear space around transmission lines? Bury transmissions lines? Costs money. Keep the power going when it's risky? Fires. Raise rates for all customers, you'll get pretty angry people. Realistically, all you can do is raise rates for people in risky areas to cover the cost of either maintenance or fires.

This is just the consequence of suing PG&E for fires.


PG&E paid $798 million in dividends in 2017 and $925 million in 2016.


That lacks any sort of context.

For one, its last dividend was paid in September 2017 before concerns about wildfires. Its dividend yield in 2017 was around 3.2%, and its profit was $1.6B. 3.2% isn't getting rich, and people don't buy utilities to get rich, but they expect dividends for their troubles, and the dividend kept up with inflation.

In hindsight, would it have been better to try to prevent wildfires? Yes, but it wasn't clear this was an issue, so in the absence of that, utilities pay out their profits to shareholders.

Its profit margin in 2017 was almost 10% (high than you'd expect for a utility), but if you look at earlier years, its all over the map, and its revenue isn't growing.


I think the point is that dividends are a distribution of profits, and they shouldn't be booking profits at all if they are violating regulations and endangering lives by avoiding maintenance expenses.


I looked through old news stories. I found this (April 2016):

https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/fires/article74496267...

> Cal Fire blames PG&E for Butte Fire, will seek $90 million

> A Cal Fire investigation has found Pacific Gas and Electric Co. responsible for the 2015 Butte Fire, one of the most destructive wildfires in state history.

Also found this (July 2016):

> Pacific Gas & Electric Company has signed a multi-million dollar contract...to remove about 160,000 dead trees that were cut down to protect power lines on private property in 10 Central California counties.

https://www.sierrastar.com/news/local/article90649657.html

There wasn't tons of outrage--op-eds saying this is a disaster waiting to happen--and they probably saw "most destructive wildfires in state history" and $90M and decided it was manageable. They were also probably still focusing on preventing the next San Bruno pipeline explosion and less worried about wildfires. It's too easy to look back with a hindsight bias and say "of course they should have done more."


I have no idea how you managed to find that stuff but missed the deadliest wildfire in California history, and when they exploded a neighborhood?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Fire_(2018)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/15/business/pge-fire.html

Not only was PG&E found liable due to poor maintenance, they have gone bankrupt as a result.

Then there was the time PG&E didn't maintain their gas pipelines and one exploded an entire block of houses, killing 8 people:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Bruno_pipeline_explosion

Or you could google for "PG&E maintenance" and click the first link that isn't on PG&E's website:

https://www.salon.com/2019/10/09/after-choosing-profits-over...


It's not like 2017 was the first year of CA's drought, or even the first year of CA's wildfires. I get that hindsight is 20/20, but trimming trees around power lines isn't exactly a new or controversial thing that power companies should try to keep up on.

3.2% might not be much, but $50M can pay to trim a good amount of trees around power lines. And where did that other $1.55B of profit go? Obviously not to tree-trimming.

(I'd go further and suggest that something as fundamental and critical as a power company shouldn't even be a profit-seeking corporation.)


This. PG&E has neglected their first job as a regulated monopoly which is to provide safe power. They are years behind on repairs and clean up needed to lower the fire risk.


We can only hope.


What in CA state government history makes you think they will do a better job managing the electrical grid?


TVA and hundreds of others seem to do just fine


What in CA government history makes you think they will do a better job managing the electrical grid?

California government seems to be more dysfunctional than government in many other places. TVA may not be a valid data point.




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