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Andreas’ Personal Flying Suit (“Monocopter”) Project (technologie-entwicklung.de)
63 points by xd on Jan 19, 2011 | hide | past | favorite | 18 comments



That is the most terrifying device I've seen in a while.


IMHO this is an amazing project so there's that, but I don't understand the flying suit in general. I would much rather fly in something that had a little more structure to it and was more aerodynamically stable (e.g. a flying car)

Is anyone building a quadricopter that'll hold one person and fit in a 2 car garage? I bet a lot of those would sell.


Quadricopter seem like a perfect candidate for personal air-vehicles. The maneuverability rocks and the problem of computer control seems to be pretty well understood. You could design a control system that anyone who's ever played a video-game could master, the only real danger would be people doing stupid things with them on purpose.

I haven't seen any examples larger than models though, do they not scale trivially?


Nothing scales trivially in the material world. The fundamental problem is that as you scale, the strength of the structure increases as N^2 but the mass increases as N^3.

> the only real danger would be people doing stupid things with them on purpose

Not even close. The quadricopter design is very non-robust in the presence of a failed engine. That alone is probably a show-stopper for ever having one of these as a passenger vehicle.

They do make wicked cool spy drones though.


They used to have man-sized quadrotors in the early 20th century. My understanding is they went out of style because the material tech wasn't up to stuff yet and there were control issues.

Also, is there a reason these couldn't auto-gyro? The mechanics of how that works has always been a bit fuzzy for me.


Q: Auto-gyro? A: Theoretically, yes. Practically, maybe.

Auto-gyroing would require pitch control of the blades. The toy quadcopters control by differential thrust and torque. For attitude, they control the thrust of the different motors to get a vectored thrust effect. For orientation, the pairs of motors are spinning in opposite directions, so if you spin a pair faster and a pair slower, the torque imbalance between the CW and CCW spinning motors will spin the quadrotor body.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrotor

Autorotation in a helicopter is done by setting the blade pitch negative so that the rotor is driven by the air wooshing up through the rotor. When you are close to the ground, you pull collective, trading the energy stored in the spinning of the rotor blades for vertical thrust to slow your descent. If you do it right, you land gently with a much slower rotor speed. If you do it wrong, you fall the last five feet. :-O

(Auto-gyro works like a helicopter auto-rotation. I suspect auto-gyros typically don't have as much blade pitch control as a helicopter. As I understand it, it is much safer to land an auto-gyro with forward velocity and a roll-out rather than vertically like a helicopter.)


You would only need to auto-gyro in the event of fuel starvation or multiple engine failure. That's not the hard part. The hard part is recovering from a single engine failure. Now you have an unbalanced torque. If you don't notice the problem and do something about it VERY fast then you will flip over. It might be possible to develop a control system that can use the engine opposite the failed one for attitude control while slowing the descent (or maybe even maintaining altitude) with the other two still-balanced engines, but that is one gnarly control problem.

Twin engine airplanes have this problem too but it's much less severe. Adverse roll is a second-order effect in an airplane, it's a first-order effect in a quad. An airplane has the tail tending to stabilize it. Despite all that, losing an engine on takeoff in a twin engine aircraft is often catastrophic. In a quad, I'd wager good money (though not my entire life savings) that it's unrecoverable. But if you're going to put human passengers in it you have to plan for that because it will happen sooner or later.


youtube for "Piasecki Airgeep" or "Moller SkyCar" to get a feel of current (which hasn't almost changed in 50 years) state of development in this area. Development of a new aircraft is very money-hungry enterprise. Moller, while was able to advance farther than anybody else, made several flawed design decisions (the flaws became obvious only when they were really implemented and tried out in the actual prototype, not before - this is why it is also very risky endeavor) which wouldn't let his car fly successfully and discredited the idea for the wide investing public.


In case it is unclear, this approach is a ducted fan (driven by a gas turbine) with vectored thrust nozzles. Very clever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducted_fan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrust_vectoring


I can't quite figure out how using that wouldn't roast you alive. 20 minutes with a jet turbine on your back? Ouch!


well, for one thing, i dont believe it is a jet turbine. It appears that the thrust is solely produced by a giant propeller.

The gas generator that runs the big fan is probably ventilated well enough not to burn the pilot.


The article talks about it getting up to 300C. Regardless of how it works that is a little concerning.


I'd be more concerned about landing it. There's no cage around the pilot and it must weigh quite a bit, if for whatever reason you lost thrust for a moment during a descent you'd crush your lower body as you fell to the ground and the machine strapped to your back fell too.


Or even the straps of the harness restricting circulation to the pilots legs leaving them numb at landing. Ever try to walk with your foot "asleep".


I'm not an airplane engine expert, but they show a compressor and turbine blade. Would that make it a jet turbine?


The term "jet" (or turbojet) tends to mean that the thrust comes from the exhaust of the engine, and all the turbine's power is put back into the compressor. In a gas turbine, the turbine captures more energy from the combustion to drive a driveshaft, and the excess exhaust is dumped (or in this case, used as additional thrust for control).


with 25m3 (800 cubic feet) per second flow of air (at the speed of 100m/s) behind your back ? (that's a mass flow and speed he needs to get through his 0.6m fan to get 250Kg of force for 120Kg device + 80 Kg pilot) Letting a bit of it out to caress your back doesn't seem to be a problem.


Now to find the pilot brave enough to fly the thing.




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