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Oh how I wish some frameworks would be half as capable as Windows Forms and the third party vendors eco-system.

To talk about outdated frameworks, first provide tooling at the same feature level.




MSFT did get their tooling right. That's what developers liked early on and became somewhat dependent on was their tools.


I rather be dependent on vendors' tooling and enjoy productivity than dealing with lower grade tooling for the greater good or whatever.

Be it Borland, Microsoft, Google, Apple, Oracle, OutSystems, Adobe, Qt, ...




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