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As long as Google owns the mobile OS, Microsoft will never be able to maintain any significant control over the app model or user experience.



Clearly Microsoft disagrees. They are putting tremendous effort into using chromium for their new Edge browser so I would have to assume they would put even more resources into customizing Android to their liking. Perhaps on a technical level, chromium-Edge will 'feel' like any other chromium based browser and android-Windows will 'feel' like any other Android based OS BUT for normal & business users - there is a lot Microsoft could do to make Android fit into a 'Microsoft/Windows'ecosystem. If it's at least partially successful, I would expect them to start making their own UI frameworks/libraries for developers to really distance the platform.


>Clearly Microsoft disagrees

And clearly they are in the wrong, but they can't do anything about it anyway, as their platform efforts on mobile faltered.


Sadly, as they gave up when they already had about 10% market share in Europe.

However Windows 10 tablets are winning the hearts of tablet users not willing to pay for Apple experience, not Android tablets that usually only have upscaled phone apps as option for most apps.


The app model, surely not.

The UX?

Ask Samsung. Use a Samsung phone and you are wrapped in their experience. Pairing BT headsets is different, the S-Pen is truly unique and rather well integrated. The camera is unique and for quite awhile was cutting edge and one of the reasons to buy a Samsung phone.

The custom Samsung UI started out pretty bad, but over time it got good. People are used to it, using other Android phones feels a bit off to them, and a fair number of their UX improvements have been since become part of Android itself.


Maybe a veiled hint at doing something like the Amazon Fire Phone, only more thoughtfully?


Personally, the Fire phone's biggest folly was price, not lack of Google Play.

I know I am being irrational but my perspective is very different for a phone introduced at $500+ vs one at sub $200.

If they could find a way to eat the losses and sell it at sub $200, a lot of people would buy the phone. That and nobody asked for the weird 3D view thing or whatever it was called.


No question price was the single biggest mistake in the Fire Phone. It was one of the notable times Amazon betrayed how they usually go after product segments, with relatively low prices and relatively high quality. Going after a very high volume, low price phone at good quality, is exactly what they should have done. Amazon saw the money machine that Apple had and thought they could slice off part of it (just $4-$6b in income would have been huge for Amazon back then); at that time AWS was not yet spitting off a large amount of operating income, so they were still thrashing around for high margin homerun that would give them some operating breathing room (same reason they took shots at eBay in auctions and Google in search). Instead of treating the Fire Phone like the rest of their hardware efforts, they reached for margin.

I'm slightly surprised they haven't taken another shot at a high volume, low price Fire phone. For further device distribution purposes (to layer services on). Why bother to continue with tablets and not do anything in phones. I've been assuming it's because of the stink of that failure, they're biding their time.


That's not true. Look at what Huawei, Samsung, and One Plus have done.




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