Call me back when I can remove Stocks or Notes or Weather from iOS. At least I w...

37prime · on Jan 12, 2011

Those are not carrier specific apps. The reason why they are there because there were no installable apps at that time. I do not need to sign in to any services or accounts to use those apps.

Amazon MP3, Facebook apps are tied to some services that requires user accounts.

One pre-installed app on iOS that fit the category is YouTube App.

rmc · on Jan 12, 2011

The reason why they are there because there were no installable apps at that time.

So now that there are installable apps, they can be removed, right? No they can't.

foobarbazoo · on Jan 12, 2011

They can't be removed because there is no way to get them back. (They are not available in the App Store.)

Yes, this could (and should) be fixed. And someday, perhaps, it will be. For now, it's just not a serious problem, outside of Hacker News.

Having three different IM clients on a phone pre-installed and unremovable? Yeah, that's the kind of shit Apple doesn't do.

jrockway · on Jan 12, 2011

Having three different IM clients on a phone pre-installed and unremovable? Yeah, that's the kind of shit Apple doesn't do.

Because Apple wants you to use SMS instead of IM, making the carriers a boatload of money for no reason.

That is exactly the kind of shit Apple does.

rahoulb · on Jan 12, 2011

It's not Apple that wants you to use SMS - it's EVERYONE.

I bought my first mobile over twelve years ago because of SMS, not voice, as it replaced the pagers that me and my friends had.

whatusername · on Jan 13, 2011

God no it's not.

Apple's SMS implementation/interface is terrible. Group Messaging is just broken.

younata · on Jan 12, 2011

Weather and Notes are pretty awesome.

I wouldn't use Amazon mp3 nor facebook, so, meh.

whatusername · on Jan 13, 2011

Weather gives me way different results to the BOM: http://www.bom.gov.au So I don't trust it at all.

Notes is okay - but I prefer simplenote.

I also don't use the contacts app (you can get at contacts through the Phone icon) but I understand that people might want to use it.