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I've been part of Ruby teams and Rails apps can start almost as slow as Java apps. Big .NET projects, too.

Plus there's probably 10x more Java developers than Ruby developers out there. And Elixir/Phoenix devs are probably 0.001% of Java devs :-)




It depends on how big the Rails app is.

One app I work with has 40 top level gems and about 17,000 lines of Ruby code (which goes a longs ways in Rails). It's not "big big" but it's not tiny. It takes under 10s to boot up. I'm sure if you have a Shopify-tier app it takes much longer, but a majority of apps aren't at that scale.

I was just throwing out examples and I'm just trying to say not everyone is dealing with cases where Docker's added 2-5+ seconds isn't a big deal. For a Flask app those few seconds make it ~20-50x longer to start up due to Docker and for a majority of other frameworks / average app sizes, it's a non-ignorable amount.




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