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You probably know that using liquid hydrogen to cool engine bells is common in rocketry as well. I found this video fascinating. On one side, the engine is so cold icicles are forming. Centimeters away, the other side is so hot that it would melt pretty much any metal except the most exotic of alloys. The engine is so efficient that all that energy is pointed straight down. None escapes to melt the icicles.

https://youtu.be/4eM1mNNdguA?t=89

Scott Manley has a good explanation but I can't find the video right now where he mentions it.




Yes, it keeps the bell of the nozzle from melting off the back of the rocket. And that is a really cool trick, extremely tough to pull off in the original F1 engines of the Saturn V (lots of welds) but easier to do now that you can 3D print the engine.

However, the SABRE has a different challenge. Rather than cool metal (Inconel) which is a very good conductor of heat, the SABRE heat exchanger is cooling the air which has gained temperature for becoming compressed by the moving aircraft. Air, for all of its wonderful properties, is not a particularly good heat conductor[1]. Further, since heat transfer by conduction is a function of time in which the two dissimilar temperature materials are in contact, and hyper sonic craft are going very fast, it has to achieve this heat transfer in a literal "blink of an eye." It has been compared to shooting an acetylene torch through it and having a cool breeze come out the other side. Really amazing stuff.

[1] This is fortunate as it makes down coats warm rather than cold.


Not only that, but it has to not ice up in the process.


That’s not what’s going on in the video. This is a cryogenic test, no part of the engine is hot.


Sure doesn't seem that way to me. Blue rocket flame is coming out, and the operators talk about "ignition" and percentage thrust and shut down (when all the icicles fly off).


The ice is forming inches below the rocket engine.

“The steam is cooled by the cold engine nozzle, condensing and eventually freezing at the nozzle exit to form icicles.” https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/constellation/multimedia/...

In other words both sides of the base of the nozzle is cold.

PS: Though presumably closer it combustion it may still get hot on the inside.




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