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I'm so so so tired of people complaining about what is and what isn't HN relevant. Yes maybe the topic is not technology but isn't this something that effects us (Americans mostly) regardless of whether or not it's HN news?

I welcome the news because how else would I have the time to find all these articles on my own? I wouldn't, so I actually appreciate that someone posted it here.

If you really don't have interest in the article then just don't click it, move along. It seems like you're putting in more effort complaining than it would take to just skip to the next HN news article.




The problem is that as we allow more non-topical articles to be voted to the top of HN, we lose cohesion.

You can go anywhere for Wikileaks news, and as iuguy has pointed out, reddit is probably one of the best/easiest places to find such news.

You could move along to the next post, but what happens when all the posts are off topic? Where will you go for the news you once found on HN?

HN is like a subreddit, if someone were posting /r/funny to /r/science, and 50% of /r/science was jokes, /r/science would lose a lot of its value.

Whether or not this belongs on HN I will leave to others to decide, but iuguy was saying that off-topic material devalues HN.


The problem is that when a forum like Hacker News loses its focus, it loses its value.

I've observed this as Reddit has expanded. /r/programming used to be a good source for learning about neat new technologies and programming techniques. Now, in part because it's one of the default front-page subreddits for an expanding user base on Reddit that mostly aren't programmers, the programming content gets buried beneath jokes, general technology or computer related articles that aren't about programming specifically, and the like.

If Hacker News loses its focus on programming and startups, it risks this happening as well. The detention conditions of PFC Bradley Manning may be interesting, but they are not on topic for a site like Hacker News. There are many other places you can read about and discuss that topic. There aren't many places where I can read about and discuss a broad range of programming and startup related information like I find on Hacker News.


Let's have that discussion when it's actually a significant problem, but it's not right now. Every time I load HN I find 10-15 relevant tech articles and maybe 1-2 articles like this. I'm fine with that ratio. Everyone seems to be making a bigger deal out of this than is justified.


Yes maybe the topic is not technology but isn't this something that effects us (Americans mostly) regardless of whether or not it's HN news?

I don't know. Are you expecting to be put in solitary confinement and suicide watch in a military prison any time soon? Because I sure as hell am not.


Just because I don't expect it to happen to me doesn't mean it isn't relevant. The actions of our government are relevant to all.

If WikiLeaks were around in 2001 do you think it would have been as easy for Bush to feed us lies to justify going to war in Iraq? I don't. I applaud the actions of WikiLeaks.




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