Man, this seems unnecessarily harsh, and distracting from the positive props to Limor. He’s well aware of what happened, does it need to be rehashed here? Starting something is extremely difficult and most people fail. HN celebrates people who try.
Everything said there is correct. I did a terrible job and really I don’t think it’s wrong to say so. Few who backed that campaign would be likely to ever buy from me again. It’s okay to name that, it’s the truth.
I believe you're right that HN celebrates people who try. The OPs comment didn't reflect the reality of the situation. And a huge part of HN is failure. Failure has many facets, for example we more often than expected lose great products marred by people and their bad choices. Limor is the antithesis to that. I've learned a ton from her work, and have built many random things using her contributions or designs. People should always keep in mind failing doesn't always just end there and is over. If you have success it's often a culmination of honesty, integrity, thoughtful design and timeliness. Delight your customer. I think Limor embodies that and, while harsh, my comment is not false. Something being run poorly should be just as much of a learning aspect as the opposite and a reflection point given the juxtaposition of the two. Limor has provided positively, to likely, millions of people in her career. Yes, be like Limor - and always have top of mind your users, your customers, your friends and family and how she's treated them. Because beyond the product many lose, or never had, the rest of the picture in sight.
> The OPs comment didn’t reflect the reality of the situation.
He said he failed, then you said he failed, it seems like you agree, but feels like kicking someone who’s down. The comment was about Limor, not his life story... maybe it doesn’t need to capture every nuance? Did his point require more detail?
> while harsh, my comment is not false.
Does that make it necessary to litigate here and now?
> People should always keep in mind failing doesn’t always just end there and is over.
Indeed, failure leads to lessons learned. People who’ve failed and then try again tend to fare better than first timers. Maybe your idea is something worth mulling over before declaring in public you wouldn’t give him a second chance or back anything associated with him ever again?
I’ve tried and failed before, and it was intensely stressful trying to keep people happy while making stupid mistakes and having things go downhill. I suspect having people with an axe to grind spread super negative feelings about me and my future work wouldn’t be any fun, or helpful, or educational. It’d be one thing if it was a scam, but poor execution, maybe let that go?
> It’d be one thing if it was a scam, but poor execution, maybe let that go?
Poor execution is a form of scam to your customer. A promise unfulfilled, a delivery timeline slipped, an untruthful representation of the product and a fake review. They're all forms of what not to do.
Maybe it's not that you see this as me grinding an axe, but rehashing your failure and you have a far different perspective and sensitivity to addressing it. From PEP 20: "Errors should never pass silently." Maybe let's not bury the failures and show that those who are successful approach it in that manner.
I can understand it feeling like a scam. It’s hard to tell from the outside. See this talk I gave in 2018 for my perspective just about 5 years after the campaign started.
