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What should be talked about is what's actually the point of jobs. It's not as a means to get work done so corporations can generate profit. Jobs are a tool to organize society. Profit is a side-effect of that but an irrelevant part the primary function of jobs. This concept of jobs as a tool to organize society rather than a way to solve problems using human "capital" or humans as machines or tools for problem solving which can then be replaced by other machines which can solve the same problems cheaper needs additional studying. As using humans to solve problems for corporations is becoming more and more irrelevant.



I find this a little bit confusing. The primary function of jobs is that it's hard for workers with specialized skills to extract all the value from their labor alone, so they get together in organizations to do it, and the people doing the organizing (and capital investing etc.) get to skim a healthy chunk off the top (too much in our current economy) for doing so. Is this the same as what you're saying, or different?


> What should be talked about is what's actually the point of jobs.

I fully agree, FWIW. Perhaps it's where my interests have typically lain, but as a developer whose primary job has been to automate other tech people--sysadmins mostly, but developers as well--this has been on my mind for about a decade now.

I don't know what the solution is.


You mean a tool to organize society like castes were? Or a tool to organize society so that it produces enough medical care and has a large enough army? The first one really doesn't fit with how dynamic jobs are, as they can be created at any income level or sector regardless of the impacts to social class.


I believe you have it reversed. The initial (main) point of a job is so the corporation can generate profit. The secondary, positive side effect, is that it can, sometimes, organize society.


Nobody hires another in order to "organize society".




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