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Why does no one have the perspective that Aaron knew he was literally stealing, according to the law, and that subverting the law, even if non ideal, was HIS choice, and therefore the overly dramatic legal threats were invited by HIS actions. It's his fault, and he didn't own up to it, even though he meant well.



> literally stealing, according to the law

This is a contested and unsettled legal question. It is not an established fact that what Aaron did would constitute stealing, due to the nuances of this particular situation.

> and that subverting the law, even if non ideal, was HIS choice, and therefore the overly dramatic legal threats were invited by HIS actions

Even if you ignore the fact that MIT has a long, established student culture of civil disobedience and circumventing the law, the level of prosecution was completely disproportionate to what he actually did.


Copyright infringement is unquestionably not theft, this is 100% settled law, it is not ambiguous.


Can you cite a source for that assertion? I can't find one.


I don't know a source for the assertion, but I find it interesting and disturbing where things in general seem to be headed.

The legal concept of "theft":

https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=2119

"the generic term for all crimes in which a person intentionally and fraudulently takes personal property of another without permission or consent and with the intent to convert it to the taker's use (including potential sale)..." (see the link above for more)

So what does it mean to "take"?:

https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=2088

"to gain or obtain possession, including the receipt of a legacy from an estate, getting title to real property or stealing an object."

...and "possession"?:

https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1555

"1) any article, object, asset or property which one owns, occupies, holds or has under control. 2) the act of owning, occupying, holding or having under control an article, object, asset or property." (again - more is available at the link)

Ok - so data can't be occupied, so we can drop that. Holding something implies that something is now in someone's hands and not in another's; data doesn't really work that way either. So - can you "own" or "control" data?

I'm not going further down this rabbit hole, but it seems to me that we have carved out this special exemption for data - or more generally IP - that isn't applied to physical objects. Which is to say that if you make a copy of data that isn't "your's" (whatever that means in a legal sense), that you have now, in some manner, committed theft. You have somehow stolen something from someone else - even though they still have theirs!

Imagine a physical item, and imagine you had a way to copy it. Maybe a wood table, and you are an expert woodworker. You see it, you take some measurements first, plus some photos, maybe a 3D scan? Or you used photogrammetry from the pictures to gain the 3D data. Whatever. Then you go home and make the copy in your workshop. You make an "exact" copy of that table, and the owner (the guy who originally made it - maybe he was selling it, too) learns about it.

Have you just stolen from him? Have you committed theft?

In the real world, if you tried to bring such charges, you might be laughed out of court (unless he had a patent on it, and you were trying to sell that copy - because patent law allows one to make such copies in order to make improvements, but those copies can't be sold or manufactured in quantity).

But when it comes to data - all of a sudden, it's different. With data, the deprivation (even if you are just keeping it for yourself, with no intention of passing it on to someone else!) is considered to be "a loss of sales revenue".

So why not in that case of that table? Or any other potentially manufactured artifact?

The "slippery slope" argument might be the idea that in the future, that yes, if you happen to make an exact copy of a manufactured article (whether manufactured as a singular item or by the millions, whether done by hand or by machines), and regardless of whether you intend to sell it or keep it for your own use - that if caught, you will be deemed as having committed theft; as having stolen something.

I mean - why not? That's what we do with data, so why not physical items?

The next step is, of course, to just define stealing or theft as being the deprivation of sales revenue...but that would be crazy, right?

As crazy as thinking that one could define stealing and theft as being something you do where you don't deprive the original owner of anything...?


"Aaron knew he was literally stealing, according to the law"

He was? I may be misremembering, but I don't think that was the crime he was accused of. I believe the crime was bypassing access control systems.

And even that accusation seriously stretched credulity.


His indictment: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/217117-united-states...

Among other things, he was charged with the heinous crime of modifying his MAC address on his laptop's WiFi so that he could obtain a new IP address.


>And even that accusation seriously stretched credulity.

How did that accusation seriously stretch credulity? The technical means may have been simple, but it's unquestionable that he did so intending to circumvent access controls.


Because he was not engaging in the sort of activity that the law was intended to address.


"Feel free to download and access these documents that we have arranged for you to be able to use."

attaches retrieval requests to a python script

"N-N-NOT LIKE THAT--!!"


I have this perspective.

They shouldn't have threatened him to the extent they did, I definitely concede, and I wish he didn't feel so pressured to commit suicide - but I'm not convinced he was the perfect person everyone seems to claim.


I think the punishment should fit the crime. If he photocopied every book in the library, how much time do you think he'd face?

Let's say you can prove intent to distribute; I still don't think it's worth any jail time. It's theoretically harmful at best, minor harm to anyone at worst. It's not like a large specific harm (say, stealing someone's car, which has a definite negative impact on them). It's more like... taking all the shrimp at the buffet.

Plus our copyright law is completely fucked anyway and encourages anti competitive behavior (the exact opposite of its intent). On top of that, there's a good bet that 99.99% of the papers involved were the results of taxpayer-funded research.

I don't think he's a saint, but I do think he got a bullshit deal by an overzealous, madwoman prosecutor and university - both of whom rely on federal funding. And everything that was "stolen" was also created with federal funding.


I've willingly broken laws in the past believing they were fully unjust, should I have been driven to suicide as well for that time I pirated a song in eighth grade?


Swartz was not in eighth grade. He was 26 years old. You would not have been tried the same as him. You seem to have pirated a single song, whereas Swartz downloaded over a million articles.

But really, all of those differences don't really matter. The most important difference is: Would you kill yourself instead of going to jail for just 6 months? Maybe you would. I don't know for certain. But if the US's booming prison industry tells me anything, it's that you (like most people) probably wouldn't kill yourself instead of taking a 6 month sentence.


That depends on my situation and whether I felt the sentence was just or administered fairly.


> Aaron knew he was literally stealing, according to the law.

I am sorry to be "that guy", but sometimes laws are unfair.

Extreme counter-example: SS officials in nazi Germany were acting according to the then-in-place laws. That does not mean they can thus be exempted from any consequences.


Slaves were once legal, according to the law.




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