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I wouldn't attribute to a population what can only be attributed to one individual, the company chairman. Does the Enron scandal prove all Americans are scammers for profit gain and will manipulate their values like Anderson's auditors? No it only proves that there exists some in American society.



I agree with your point but the Enron example contradicts it. One of the biggest lessons of Enron was that nearly every part of our financial system was complicit in the corruption.

There were all those things like Glisan's scheme to sell Enron assets to Osprey- all the credit rating agencies rated Osprey, and all the major institutional banks invested. I don't remember the names of the other shell company refinance schemes, but there were multiple.

Then there was the bragging in financial press how Enron could raise money using innovative financial vehicles that didn't issue stock or take debt in a way that had to be reported to the street.

Thats bad enough but the leasing shell game that was a part of that couldn't have worked without leasing the tankers to the banks.

Anyway, I think the majority of people are honest and hard working, but whole industries can definitely be corrupt and depraved.


On popular Chinese video sites, you can watch the pirated China Hustle, and the comments section is unsurprisingly almost all about blaming the Americans' stupidity.

American systems are just full of loopholes for Chinese, and Chinese will exploit every one of it for gains, and it's seen as deserved and normal in China, cos they are not taking from you, it's from "the system/pubilc/country", so it's non of your business and not yours to judge, if your are jealous then take it yourself if you are abled too.


If you can find a Chinese person that is willing to be open about the topic with a foreigner (no mean feat) you will find they almost certainly agree with what the person you are replying to is saying. It is not just this one individual... it is an endemic problem in China and is pretty much just as that person claims, sadly.




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