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Probably not shitty, just oblivious.

A Hackerspace in Germany was proud of its smartphone-activated door lock.

I was less impressed on their open house event when I saw firsthand how they struggled to open it for several minutes (with no mechanical override on the inside!), while dozens of guests were there.

When I voiced my safety concerns they simply didn't seem to understand. I mean it's just a fun hack, right?




Landlords of such spaces are not oblivious; they want all the money for the rent and none of the responsibility of being a real landlord. This is often what artists themselves are looking for since they are under capitalized and want to do questionably legal build outs and events and are willing to take on extra responsibility to be able to so (e.g. fixing pipes, patching holes, doing pest control). But that doesn't absolve the landlord.


It looks like a common setup [1], and of the ones with pictures several don't have a manual override.

[1] https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/Doorlock


A door without a crash bar in a public space?


I have learnt a new American word :-)

In British, I never knew what they were called ("those 'Push Bar To Open' things on fire doors"), apparently "panic bar". As Wikipedia[1] says, "In Europe, the use of panic bars is generally confined to code required applications. On the other hand, in US and Canadian commercial building design panic bars are frequently used even when not required by code."

The only place I see them is designated emergency exits, the type which are normally unopenable from outside and often alarmed. The main doors leading out of a large auditorium don't use them – these don't need to lock, so they use free-swinging doors. The emergency doors at the front/side would use them.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crash_bar


No, actually just shitty. There were criminal charges. The two people mainly responsible got prison time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Oakland_warehouse_fire#Cr...

Also that's crazy about that smart door... Pretty sure that's against fire code if it's one of the only exits. Ignorance isn't an excuse when other people's lives are concerned, either.


But the landlord didn't get charged, the people who leased the building from him did.


If someone leases a building to me, and I turn around and let you live there under certain conditions, who is your landlord-- my landlord, or me?


Landlord generally implies (owner && lessor), not just lessor, AFAIK.

I think you guys are just talking past eachother due to a disparity of definitions, and otherwise are actually in agreement.


I phrased my comment as a question because I was interested in OP's response. I'm not totally sure on the nomenclature here myself.




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