> While this is a step in the right direction, MS still seem to be "all in" on telemetry.
In the latest release of VSCode getting to see the exact telemetry data sent got even easier and they even pointed it out in the release notes. (It is also easy to turn it off (see below). I haven't done it since the data I see are OK with me and I want to help the devs improve VSCode for me.)
> Until the telemetry and data sent by MS software can realistically be turned off completely, they shouldn't get any kind of positive treatment.
Another instance of this "all or nothing" attitude that we have here on HN (I guess it is legacy from Slashdot and Usenet).
Steps in the right direction should be praised. This holds true for pets, kids and grown ups and I think companies too.
You might not get a chance to reward the results you want if you cannot reward the steps to get there.
Edited to add the first quote and comment.
Edit 2: Turns out it is easy to turn off telemetry.
But I'd like Microsoft's reputation to be proportional to how objectionable it's behavior is.
For example, I don't want Microsoft's reputation to go from a C- to an A- because of this patent issue, when they continue to require telemetry in Windows.
> For example, I don't want Microsoft's reputation to go from a C- to an A- because of this patent issue, when they continue to require telemetry in Windows.
We can agree on that.
GP however wrote (emphasis mine):
> they shouldn't get any kind of positive treatment.
In the latest release of VSCode getting to see the exact telemetry data sent got even easier and they even pointed it out in the release notes. (It is also easy to turn it off (see below). I haven't done it since the data I see are OK with me and I want to help the devs improve VSCode for me.)
> Until the telemetry and data sent by MS software can realistically be turned off completely, they shouldn't get any kind of positive treatment.
Another instance of this "all or nothing" attitude that we have here on HN (I guess it is legacy from Slashdot and Usenet).
Steps in the right direction should be praised. This holds true for pets, kids and grown ups and I think companies too.
You might not get a chance to reward the results you want if you cannot reward the steps to get there.
Edited to add the first quote and comment.
Edit 2: Turns out it is easy to turn off telemetry.