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> the European Parliament is democratic only in name

It was representatives (MEPs) today that chose to vote in favour of this directive. They could have voted differently and rejected the proposal outright. Can you elaborate on how this is a "democratic only in name" institution?



EU parliament used to be a place to dump 2nd rate politicians who:

(1) Were appreciated by their party, but not so much by the voters. The real politics happened in the domestic parliament, so the parties would run their 1st rate politicians in the domestic elections.

(2) And were personally very interested in the EU, and thus wanted to run.

We have been sending 2nd rate but very pro-EU politicians to the EU parliament. So the opinions of the members of the parliament are quite far from the average opinions of the EU populace. We are slowly beginning to realize that the European Parliament actually matters, and we should give some serious thought about who we vote there.


It's democratic on paper, sure. But in reality, does anyone know who their MEP is? Five year terms? Total lack of responsiveness (according to comments on here today), lack of real democratic accountability. Sure, it looks democratic, but in reality it's not. Particularly when the EU Parliament doesn't even initiate legislation, the un-elected European Commission does.


The UK government is democratic on paper, sure. But in reality, does anyone know who their MP is? [0]

Five year terms? [1]

Total lack of responsiveness [2]

lack of real democratic accountability [3]

Sure, it looks democratic, but in reality it's not.[4] Particularly when the UK parliament doesn't even initiate (propose) legislation: ministers are appointed by the government, and are not elected to their position. And civil servants write the legislation before it goes to parliament.

[0] In 2013, 3/4 people could not name their MP. See https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22555659

[1] Five years unless there is a supermajority or the loss of a no confidence vote. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed-term_Parliaments_Act_201...

[2] Numerous examples of this: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/how-responsive-your-mp... https://www.writetothem.com/stats/2015/mps

[3] There is an ability to recall MPs, but they need to have breached the parliamentary code bad enough to be suspended from sitting for a number of days or engaged in criminal behaviour and been duly sentenced. The current UK government is actively trying to strip people of voting rights who do not have the money for suitable photo ID (minimum £34)

[4] The UK's first-past-the-post electoral system means that the majority of votes do not matter.


You forgot the House of Lords.




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