> I'd usually be right beside anyone wanting to begin JavaScript bashing but it feels like you are conflating two issues.
I'm not really bashing JavaScript per se, I'm bashing modern web development ecosystem.
Sure, you can use JS and modern SPA frameworks to build lean, accessible, progressively-enhanced pages. But that's not the default. That is not what tutorials will encourage you to do. That is not what those tools were designed to facilitate. And your typical developer will absolutely follow trends and "industry standard" in the technologies they use.
It's kind of like with bashing PowerPoint. To be completely honest, PowerPoint is a very powerful tool that can help you deliver amazing presentations if you know how to use it for that goal. Most people don't, and the defaults of PowerPoint encourage bad style - hence people bash the tool.
I'm not really bashing JavaScript per se, I'm bashing modern web development ecosystem.
Sure, you can use JS and modern SPA frameworks to build lean, accessible, progressively-enhanced pages. But that's not the default. That is not what tutorials will encourage you to do. That is not what those tools were designed to facilitate. And your typical developer will absolutely follow trends and "industry standard" in the technologies they use.
It's kind of like with bashing PowerPoint. To be completely honest, PowerPoint is a very powerful tool that can help you deliver amazing presentations if you know how to use it for that goal. Most people don't, and the defaults of PowerPoint encourage bad style - hence people bash the tool.