How does conservative not mean anti-progressive? They're opposites by definition...

manigandham · on June 23, 2018

Because in reality, people and politics are a complex matrix of thousands of issues and not a simple left-or-right slider.

smt88 · on June 23, 2018

Language doesn't always capture complexity, but we're arguing about definitions, not about whether they apply wholly to any one person.

They do certainly apply wholly to ideas, though.

deltateam · on June 22, 2018

> I'm not just talking about a colloquial US usage.

but thats what we are talking about, thats what context means

its as fluid as any variable name you add to a program, in this case that variable's name is conservative.

smt88 · on June 22, 2018

I meant that in all contexts, conservative and progressive are antonyms, not just in colloquial usage.

deltateam · on June 25, 2018

right, we got that and that's wrong.

if your observation became "hey that party self-identifies with the wrong word and maybe there is a historical reason for this" then yes, that is correct