But anyway, your argument hinges on the supposition that ISPs guarantee your bandwidth all the time. In fact, most of them do not. If you are buying a strict guaranteed bandwidth, do tell me why it is that the ISPs don't actually say that themselves?
Hence the argument that throttling your traffic betters other customers.
I don't know who 'Leo' is, but here is the way I understand it:
Copyright infringement is illegal. Torrent files are not (they don't contain copyrighted information, they contain hashes).
Downloading a copyrighted work using any mechanism, including bittorrent is illegal in many places, but not everywhere.
> But anyway, your argument hinges on the supposition that ISPs guarantee your bandwidth all the time.
No, they have a best effort obligation to deliver what they'e sold. The fact that most of them don't make that effort does not mean they're in the clear.
> If you are buying a strict guaranteed bandwidth, do tell me why it is that the ISPs don't actually say that themselves?
> No, they have a best effort obligation to deliver what
> they'e sold. The fact that most of them don't make that
> effort does not mean they're in the clear.
Well, Jacques, once again, that's actually precisely their argument: that they are "making their best effort" to preserve the user experience. You say they're not providing what you pay for and tell them why, and then they spin around and tell you that they are providing exactly that, because they are doing what you don't like.
And on top of that, they're not promising what you tell them you were sold: there is no bandwidth guarantee. It's like if you showed up to someone's house and bought a stereo, and then after you paid, loudly proclaimed that you actually bought their wife. Saying doesn't make it so, and since this is not a promise they have actually given you, it's a bit unfair to expect that they be held to it.
Remember, though before you head down that hole, that I'm not supporting them. I love net neutrality. It think it's great. I'm just saying that your buying bandwidth is not a good basis for argument of the position you elected.
>> If you are buying a strict guaranteed bandwidth, do tell me why it is that the ISPs don't actually say that themselves?
> Because it is to their advantage.
You're right. It's to their advantage not to sell that guarantee. That would be insane.
But anyway, your argument hinges on the supposition that ISPs guarantee your bandwidth all the time. In fact, most of them do not. If you are buying a strict guaranteed bandwidth, do tell me why it is that the ISPs don't actually say that themselves?
Hence the argument that throttling your traffic betters other customers.