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Unless you enjoyed all the years of usage instead of waiting for a interoperable open standard. :-)



I think the point is that due to network effects the winner actively holds back the losers, so you can't extrapolate from what happened in a world where Skype won to another world where they didn't. It would have been better for everyone if the winner had been an open standard and a very small change could have accelerated that solution to ubiquity rather than Skype, in the same timeframe.


Out of curiosity, another industry where this (the small change accelerating an open standard such that there are more winners [a higher tide overall]) is what happened? I'm not saying there aren't any--honest question.


ethernet, arpanet, tcp/ip, the public telephone system... Is this what you mean?


the public telephone system

You mean Ma Bell?


I mean ITU-T


Can the protocol be reverse engineered? I guess regardless it is dependent on connecting to some central switching service; but maybe there could be an alternative, open central service someday.

Relatedly, if Skype changes the protocol, does it break an installed base of clients, or do those get updated automagically?


why would you want to reverse-engineer a proprietary protocol, which still connects to a walled garden?

a more ideal solution involves decentralization. do you trust a single service provider?


Waiting? Open standards exist, already, today.

SIP, STUN, RTP, XMPP, Jingle, all these are recognizable open protocols. Skype, if they were truly interested in not being a walled-garden, would have either built or migrated to a network based on these.

Skype will be dead in 10 years if Apple makes good on their promise to keep Facetime open.


Funny you mention XMPP in light of how many times people call [it] "Google Talk" (this seems to draw the ire the folks that know about the real 'recognizable open protocol' underneath).


facetime on windows though ?


If you are willing to install QuickTime, iTunes, Safari, Bonjour and so on along with it...


I wouldn't see why not.




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