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Staying alive and being able to pay the rent is creating value too.



No, that's consuming value.


Then we disagree on the value of staying alive irrespective of one's productivity level.


You're being intentionally ignorant of the way everyone else uses the term "creating value," which describes work that improves the world around you, not just work that happens to keep you alive.


It's not just the one that comes up with a concept like sanitation that creates value. It's also those in the government that have it implemented that create value. The garbage man that executes the work also creates value, by reducing others of the burden of having to worry about garbage.

A great many people contribute a little, so a few can excel. There wouldn't be universities if everyone had to hunt for their own food. Most people create value and asserting that this person doesn't is shortsighted, especially since this job enabled him to start a PhD... who knows what wonders may come out of that.


Except my point is that you can still improve the world around you (create value) even if your work does not do so. In that sense, maintaining your own survival is also a means of creating value. On the other hand, you seem to define "creating value" in excessively narrow terms by accepting whatever preconceived notion you insist it is defined by.


That is creating value to himself! The original point was about creating values to others.

How on earth can you be smart and not realise the rules of engagement in the world? Not you personally, but the guy who claimed he was super smart.




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