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Most of those aren't NVIDIA, though.

Ironically, most of them actually use AMD's IP (the "Adreno" GPU, which is an anagram of "Radeon") that they sold off to Qualcomm in 2009. Which was yet another terrible call made by AMD management in that timeframe.

(although who knows if Adreno would have blown up in the same way if it had AMD mismanaging it)

Even more ironically, Adreno also used tile-based rendering that NVIDIA ended up adopting in the Maxwell architecture and AMD is adopting in the Vega architecture. It's a nice way to boost your power efficiency, which is critical to battery life in mobile devices.

Turns out since we're past Dennard scaling, packing more transistors on a chip now makes it hotter. So if you want it to go faster, you need to cut the power down in other ways. And thus, desktop GPUs are starting to look an awful lot like mobile GPUs...

(which is yet another reason why AMD's general-purpose compute-oriented GPU architectures are losing so badly in the desktop graphics market. RX 580 pulls twice the power of a GTX 1060 for the same performance...)




Only in furmark, for non power virus work loads it's ~20w more on average.


No, in gaming it's literally twice the power consumption of a GTX 1060.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/RX_580_Nitro_Pl...

Many other aftermarket 580s are similar. For a sense of perspective here, that's roughly the same amount of power as some aftermarket 290Xs used. Or roughly 60 watts more than a GTX 1080. And that's GPU-only, not a total system load.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/R9_290X_Direct_Cu_I...

Polaris 10 is a reasonably efficient chip when you don't push it too hard. AMD - and their AIB partners - are pushing it way, way too hard in a desperate attempt to eke out a 2% win over the 1060. It isn't worth a 50% increase in TDP to get an extra 8% performance.

(and unlike the RX 480 - there is no reference RX 580 design, it's a whole bunch of these crazy juiced-up cards)


Reference card (1060) vs overlocked card (580). Looking at multiple review sites, including international ones like Computerbase, PCGH.de etc, and comparing overlocked 1060 vs overclocked 480/580 the difference is ~50-60 watt.

Not good, but also not twice the power consumption...

I don't understand why AMD didn't use faster memory in the 580 like Nvidia did with the 1060 refresh. The 580 needs faster memory more than higher core clocks.

Lets hope AMDs return to tile based rendering (used in Adreno) plus the other improvements help them get better at power consumption just like Nvidia with Maxwell. But I don't expect much from Vega after AMDs GPUs of the last 3 years. Navi looks more promising, as it is probably the first GPU to be fully designed under Raja Koduri.




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