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I got that too. The essay definitely had an anti-religious undertone to me.



You cannot study what -by definition- it's impossible to observe or measure directly or indirectly. Believing in God it's an act of faith, you cannot KNOW nothing.

So yes, in modern times, theology and alchemy has the same scientific value: none


"You cannot study what -by definition- it's impossible to observe or measure directly or indirectly"

You're limiting knowledge to the hard sciences.

That kind of thinking is not scientific, but merely Scientism.

You're also ruling out many scientific domains, e.g. history which operates according to the historical method.

Theology (in the original Christian sense of the word) stands on the historical method. It's interested primarily in those historical events from which we can learn about God. If Jesus is not historical, if God has not acted in history, then there's nothing to know about God, and there's no such thing as Theology.


History is studied through indirect measurements - written accounts, archaeology, oral history. All reasonable scientific routes. As allowed by the OP?


Yes, that would be the historical method.

But that is different to the "observe", "measure", rinse-and-repeat methodology which is commonly understood as the scientific method.

The methods by which one studies physics and history are different, but history is no less scientific, and it falls within the sciences, as does theology since it depends on the historical method.

Theology cannot argue or learn anything about God for which there is no historical basis.


Scientific value != value. I view theology as a study of how humans characterize their relationship to that which is beyond logic: god, infinity, existence, whatever. To me, this study has individual and collective value even in modern times, despite the fact that it has no scientific value.




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