> In fact, most Australian media will only talk about homelessness of women.
Horseshit. This Australian sees most public discussion of homelessness as not mentioning gender either way.
> Yet, ABS puts the figure at about 30% of victims as being male.
Yes, men are subject to 30% of domestic violence, and it's an under-reported problem. But the women cop much more severe violence. The male victims don't need refuges in the proportions that females
> bombarded the TV with ads saying that the root cause of domestic violence was young boys "it's a boy thing" was the catch cry.
This is a gross misrepresentation of the DV ads. The core message of the ads wasn't "it's a boy thing", but "we socially train boys to disrespect women, let's do better".
> Never in history have we played such nasty gender games.
Nah, places like the US and the UK simply didn't give women the vote until a couple of centuries after men had it. Or let women own property freely, or so on and so forth. But since you're just talking about people saying 'girls' instead of 'kids', well, fuck, men/boys have been the default in public announcements for so long that it's ridiculous.
Yes, men have problems that feminism doesn't really recognise well (if at all), but you have a chip on your shoulder that is distorting your perceptions. It's bizarre that you get so worked up over a single utterance of Clinton's, yet pretend that the long history of "boy's clubs" excluding women from positions of power simply doesn't exist. As an Australian, are you aware that women were legally paid 2/3rds the rate of men as late as the mid 1970s? Or that as late as the 60s, women weren't allowed to secure loans without a male guarantor? Hell, in some states in the US, there's no such thing as rape if the couple are married. All of those things are a bit more than "girls, you can do it!"
By all means, raise consciousness for men's issues, but don't take the petty passive-aggressive swipe at women's issues in the process.
> Horseshit
> you have a chip on your shoulder
> It's bizarre that you get so worked up
Your account has a pattern of posting uncivil comments on HN, which we've asked you many times to stop. It's not cool, regardless of how wrong or annoying someone else is. It's also not cool regardless of how right your views are. Indeed, you discredit those by being a jerk, so if you care about these things, that is an extra reason to be civil.
Horseshit. This Australian sees most public discussion of homelessness as not mentioning gender either way.
> Yet, ABS puts the figure at about 30% of victims as being male.
Yes, men are subject to 30% of domestic violence, and it's an under-reported problem. But the women cop much more severe violence. The male victims don't need refuges in the proportions that females
> bombarded the TV with ads saying that the root cause of domestic violence was young boys "it's a boy thing" was the catch cry.
This is a gross misrepresentation of the DV ads. The core message of the ads wasn't "it's a boy thing", but "we socially train boys to disrespect women, let's do better".
> Never in history have we played such nasty gender games.
Nah, places like the US and the UK simply didn't give women the vote until a couple of centuries after men had it. Or let women own property freely, or so on and so forth. But since you're just talking about people saying 'girls' instead of 'kids', well, fuck, men/boys have been the default in public announcements for so long that it's ridiculous.
Yes, men have problems that feminism doesn't really recognise well (if at all), but you have a chip on your shoulder that is distorting your perceptions. It's bizarre that you get so worked up over a single utterance of Clinton's, yet pretend that the long history of "boy's clubs" excluding women from positions of power simply doesn't exist. As an Australian, are you aware that women were legally paid 2/3rds the rate of men as late as the mid 1970s? Or that as late as the 60s, women weren't allowed to secure loans without a male guarantor? Hell, in some states in the US, there's no such thing as rape if the couple are married. All of those things are a bit more than "girls, you can do it!"
By all means, raise consciousness for men's issues, but don't take the petty passive-aggressive swipe at women's issues in the process.