Care to actually explain why you feel that way? To clarify, MGTOW is the opposite of seeking external validation. The control group will spend their lives continuing to appeal to others, while the MGTOW will learn to be happy with who they are or to change the parts they don't like for their own sake, not others.

I agree that the appeal of MGTOW is that it recognizes that men's lives have value independent of whether society approves of their level of sexual/romantic success, and that it has as a stated goal helping men live that reality.

I think that spending time on, for instance, the MGTOW subreddit doesn't in actuality make progress toward that goal. It focuses very heavily on how women/feminism/society/whatever victimizes men. Victimization mindsets foster an external sense of locus of control instead of an internal one, which holds people back.

I will admit I don't really know much about MGTOW or its community. My inferences on MGTOW is based on a pretty limited reading about it. If there's really such a heavy focus on victimization and placing blame then yeah, that's shitty.

My reading is about Red Pill, which is all about being independent and taking responsibility for your own life. Everything good or bad in life is your own fault. There's nothing wrong with women today, there's something wrong with men (or at least, something wrong with the men who are unhappy about their relationships with women). I think it would be rare to find anyone who's read about Red Pill to disagree with any of these, and I don't think any of these concepts (as applied to straight, white men) would be offensive to even the most extreme feminist.