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> Will submitting be better or worse than the current situation in Venezuela? If anyone claims that it will be worse, I'd like to see their justification for that statement.

The current situation is shit. Paths forward should be judged against their alternatives and their possibilities. Global powers love that they can coerce the impoverished into decades-long deals of economic servitude and their ideology pushes it as the only reasonable way forward. Dictatorship and submission to global capitalism aren't the only options.




What's your better option?


The state of Venezuela could not in any way be justly called representative of the people of Venezuela. I'm an anarchist, i would like to see the abolition of all states but i'm well aware that most people find that unreasonable. At the very least, no solution that involves negotiation between Maduro's dictatorship and their international creditors is a just representation of the interests of the people.

Democratic economic self-determination is alternative possibility. It may work, it may not work, but it's an option that attempts to achieve justice.


> The state of Venezuela could not in any way be justly called representative of the people of Venezuela. [snip] At the very least, no solution that involves negotiation between Maduro's dictatorship and their international creditors is a just representation of the interests of the people.

Very, very true.

Unfortunately, there's this group of thugs with guns who run Venezuela, and who aren't going to go away even though the people of Venezuela would like them to. Given that the Maduro "government" de facto exists, and refuses to quit, what should be done?

> Democratic economic self-determination is alternative possibility.

I'm not sure what you mean here. Do you mean letting the people of Venezuela vote on what should be done to rescue their economy? If so, you aren't going to get that, because step one of what needs done is getting the country out of the hands of Maduro and his crew, and Maduro isn't going to let anyone vote on whether that happens (or anything else about the management of the economy).

So far as I can see, any path forward is going to have to coerce Maduro into doing something that is anathema to his ideology. If you've got an alternative that works with the existence of Maduro, I'd love to hear it.




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