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Not a PhD but is a part-time undergrad possible as well?

I'm a self learned software engineer and very happy with where I am but would really like to get a degree in math. On top of that I keep running into immigration / visa issues without a degree and got classified as "not educated enough" multiple times. I was able to offset the degree with certifications here in Asia but that doesn't seem to convince everyone.

I come from Germany's 3-class school system and have a total of 10 years of school experience ("Realschule") + 3 years vocational school on top. Work experience is at 6 years now. Most universities don't even allow me enroll because my 3 years vocational school doesn't count as "normal school", that knocks me down to 10 years of education.

My path to a math degree would be right now:

1. Go back to school for 2-3 years

2. Enroll 4 years in university

3. Think about further studies

I don't mind the 4 years thing or longer part time, but having to put 2-3 years on top just so I am allowed to pay money / enroll seems ridiculous to me.

Anyone by chance experience with this?




No one in the anglophone world will care that you don't have an Abitur. The UK's Open University has open admission. If you have the £5,000 for a full time course load for a year they'll let you in.

Assuming three years of vocational school refers to Fachhochschule you would at the least be admitted straight into most computing degree's second or third year. Given your work experience you could probably get into some Master's degrees. Peterep down thread says he got into Oxford's Software Engineering Master's without a Bachelor's degree. His email is in his profile.


I'm not entirely sure on the details, but I hear that Open University degrees are not recognised in Germany for the very fact that there are no entry requirements for bachelor degrees. Of course, this would apply to any university without entry requirements.

I may be wrong about this (and if anyone here can set the matter straight, that would be great), but I would strongly suggest finding out more about recognition if this may pose a problem.


I don't have first hand experience - but in the US you'd be able to enroll into part-time undergrad via community colleges immediately.


Checked out the UK's Open Univ and other distance learning options?




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