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I think you mean "is the solution, not the problem"



Are you for real?


Trump supporters are real. Or he would not have gotten the nomination.

Shockingly, some of them even post at hn.


> Shockingly, some of them even post at hn.

Why is that shocking? Given the scope of active users, I'd be surprised if you didn't find supporters of every major candidate.


Because it's difficult to understand why anyone with enough intelligence to operate a computer would support him.


Condescension, smugness and contempt for the electorate are effective ways to lose otherwise sure elections.


Yes, but it's still true. Even from Trump supporters I've yet to hear a good reason to support him. The standard reasons are that he can't be bought (because he is one of those rich people you're talking about having too much influence), that he speaks his mind (is that why his positions are wildly inconsistent?) or that he represents a break from the status quo (true, but by being far worse!).

I'm not saying Trump supporters are idiots, but I have yet took figure out how one would support him otherwise.


He says things that people agree with, that other candidates wouldn't say. And he comes across as a strong leader who would actually implement change. It's as simple as that.

I would never vote for him. But it's hard to not have sympathy for someone you see getting attacked and slandered for saying something you agree with. Political rhetoric like "supporters are X are idiots" creates polarization. People who were on the fence before become stronger supporters of X, because they feel they are under attack and need to stand up for what they believe.

Trump is a master of this tactic. He says things he knows lots of people believe, but that are very controversial. This gets him tons more media attention than other candidates.


The US Congress has an 11% approval rate. The idea that people would support a candidate from outside that system is not hard to fathom.


From what I gather some of the appeal is that what we've been doing doesn't seem to be working, so why not shake it up? I don't agree with that statement, but I can see why people fall into it.


Written text does not convey sarcasm and irony well. Observing the up and downvotes I get whenever I mention Trump - his support here is robust. Whether people like him, or there are people that are more annoyed from Trump's bashers than from Trump himself - I don't know.


I don't care about Trump, but the intrusion of partisan politics in the form of Trump (or Sanders or Clinton) bashing into a thread is toxic. In fact this whole thread has become toxic for this reason. This incident has been spun into an indictment of Trump and his 'xenophobic' supporters.


You can't really escape it. For the last 8 years it was economic stagnation for the vast majority. For a small minority - they were intermediaries in giving corporate money to landlords - talked with a london based friend today - no matter how much you make the rent increases absorb any rise in income and you always have 500 GBP at the end of the month as disposable. And we have a select few that won big.

Right now every demographic is afraid and insecure for variety of reasons and they wrongly see the November election as crucial. So partisanship is all they have left to express their frustration and anger. So it becomes omnipresent.


Understood, but I wish it wasn't present on HN which is generally above such mud slinging.

The story has absolutely nothing to do with the election, and there is no reason to believe that the woman who reported Menzio was a Trump supporter, and yet the Washington Times, taking its cue from Menzio's Facebook comments, chose to spin it as an indictment of Trump.

In short, it is effectively a partisan political article, and shouldn't be posted to HN for that reason.


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