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I don't think anyone is claiming that a static CMS would be a "good idea" for people who have a multitude of pages that are constantly changing, that is of course, madness.

There are a huge number of websites (ie: like every small business website I have ever been to) that have like 5-10 pages tops and they almost never change. For all intents and purposes, they are static. Throwing such sites up on github or s3 is a no brainer. I disagree with your statement that we don't need MORE of those tools. We absolutely need more of those tools, but not for developers (there are literally a million to choose from if you are a developer), what we need are nice clean user-friendly front ends. Every time I have to enable javascript just to visit some Wix website I cringe a little.




There are plugins for Wordpress that will bake the front end of the site in to static HTML and push it up to an S3 bucket for hosting. Seems like a decent solution to me.


Ugh, Don't get me started on WordPress. I think I would describe such a solution as "lipstick on a pig".


On HN you are generally expected to 'get started', rather than insulting projects like that without expanding.

I would actually say, though I vastly prefer say Jekyll over WordPress, that generating a static site from a WordPress site probably works pretty well and gets you a very mature CMS UI for your users.

Doing it that way round is probably preferable and better understood at this point than the newer solutions that are trying to bolt CMS backends onto Jekyll sites (CodeCannon, Prose.io etc).


Fair enough, I half expected to get called out. My original comment suggested that what was needed (particularly for non-developers) was a "nice clean user-friendly front end". Wordpress, although incredibly popular, is IMHO, a usability nightmare and does not fit the bill. It is one of the least intuitive pieces of software I have ever used. I have recently spent some time searching twitter for people having problems with wordpress, and I know i'm not alone.

In any case, for the websites I am talking about (small non-technical businesses in particular), wordpress is overkill and operates at a higher layer of abstraction then necessary. Also, such a solution has almost all the disadvantages of wordpress (Finding wordpress hosting [These guys are not going to have their own on-premise wordpress install], setting up and configuring wordpress, keeping wordpress and plugins up-to-date), for very little advantage (slightly more consistent load times? ). Just putting a CDN in front of it would get you most of the way there.

It's also hard to recommend a good wordpress host [The exception to this is sandstorm, which is amazing and does the wordpress->static thing exactly right]. Managed wordpress is what you want, but it's bloody expensive (again, IMO, but these kinds of customers are generally cheap). Anything more hands-on than fully manged hosting is a lot of work and maintenance for something these people are realistically NOT going to use on a daily basis.

I think Wix and Squarespace serve a very much needed part of the market, and I wish I could point people at an elegant open source solution that would allow "normal" people to have affordable websites backed by S3 or Github pages (like us developers enjoy).




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