This thread is getting ridiculous. I appreciate people don't like notifications but the very few sites that request them are sites like gmail, discord, irccloud etc which the majority of people absolutely do want notifications from.

Web standards aren't a democratic process that all the web users vote on. They're defined by a consortium of companies each with their own special interests and agendas. Pop-ups were allowed by web standards and we've gone out of our way to build tools to prevent them.

People rarely design specs. Corporations do, and they push their own agendas, like, all the time.

That's like saying "If people didn't like DRM we wouldn't have W3C's Encrypted Media Extensions".

Which people? The developers or the end users? It's a cliché but I can't see my non-techie mom or dad, or cousins, aunts, uncles ever wanting website notifications on their laptop, not even for gmail.

So now everybody gets alerts to accept notifications so those 0.001% techies/devs who want them can use them? they could enable it themselves.

The _very few_ sites include also techcrunch and others. I see people thinking they got a virus because they're getting notifications on their OS by a website they've accepted by mistake.

For me it's very rare, and >75% of the time that a site asks for that permission I want to grant it.