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Some of us lack social skills. I've struggled my entire life with this problem, and have barely learned to "fake it" well enough to pass as a normie.

Also, small towns in the South offer only one place for communal gatherings, church, and I don't do church.




The key is to be comfortable with it - I was fighting the same oh-my-god-im-socially-poor thing but then I realized I don't happen to enjoy being in company of people not very close to me. I've since embraced it - I no longer view that as some kind of deficit I need to compensate for. And you know what that has made me better socially. It might sound weird but when you drop the whole expectation burden, when you no longer try to fit in, you become yourself and other people naturally like that.


Useless comment[1] but most of the truth lies here.

[1] mine, obviously ;)


Not really useless - external validation does good things to introvert's social confidence :)


I've been accused of having poor social skills, but I think that's a rude enough thing to accuse someone of that it just screams hypocrisy.

I've been told my quietness makes people uncomfortable, but telling people that they are being quiet is... supposed to achieve what? That's not a way to start a conversation, it just puts people into a defensive mode. How graceful!

I've been told I don't smile enough. I would be a poor comedian indeed if I went on stage demanding that people laugh simply because they paid for the seats like it's an obligation.

I have perfectly fine social skills. I just know what my priorities are, and I'm not willing to pretend you are one just because you'd like me to. I don't value that inconsistency.


>I just know what my priorities are, and I'm not willing to pretend you are one just because you'd like me to.

That's what having good social skills is.


I wouldn't say you had bad basketball skills just because you have better things to do than play the game with me.

There are people who are a priority to me, and they seem to like my social skills just fine. And if someone wants that out of me, they aren't going to get there by telling me I have poor social skills or that I don't smile enough. That's burning your bridges, and not an example of someone in a position to offer criticism.


If you refused to ever play basketball, I WOULD say you have bad basketball skills. You can only have skills if you play.


I do play, just not when you want me to.


You are contradicting yourself.

If you stop playing basketball halfway through a game, and your rationale is "I do what I want, not what you guys want" you have _both_ poor basketball skills _and_ bad social skills.


I think your analogy is being taken too far and is starting to unravel.


So Michael Jordan now has bad basketball skills?

abstaining from something doesn't make someone bad at it....that's just not logical.


I've been told my quietness makes people uncomfortable

I've been accused of being rude just for politely asking to reduce the volume (imagine playing music at full volume in a car, windows closed) - most people don't have any sense of how much noise pollution they are causing. Being quiet is just not possible for them or even making less noise. In my experience it takes so much effort to make them understand that avoiding such situations is a better option.


It's easier just to not hang out with people you don't like. Then you can avoid getting accused of having poor social skills because they won't even know you.


Is not always an option, for example with certain people on your job.


If there are specific people on your job that you don't like, you do have to be professional & cordial when working with them, but you don't have to socialize with them besides that.

If you don't like anybody at your job, it's time to find a new job.


> have barely learned to "fake it" well enough to pass as a normie

So do I. I don't mind to practice social skills but I can smell the b.s in many people and don't like the fake socialization, so I prefer to be alone (now with my dog) with a small number of real friends who have the similar concept.


I've learned to "fake it" so well that I can seem more social than my wife, who is a very social person. And yet, I'm always aware (on some level) that I'm faking it. Life is funny ;)


Now imagine that everyone else was "faking it" too. That's always a real mindbender to imagine for me.

Because to some degree we are all faking it, but then when does the front become reality?


Yes, that's a mindbender.

It's not easy to talk about. People tend to get defensive.

Most smiles that I see seem forced, for example. And even when I'm eavesdropping. So it's not just about me ;)

But it can be learned. Decades later, I still vividly recall the video sessions at the start and end of the est 6-Day course. Most people managed to own their act.


6 cats, 2 dogs, one wife, no friends, what more could any insane homeworker ask for?


Sadly it gets worse you factor in if you're a member of the LGBT community like me. It's why I had to get a therapist and move to a bigger town. Just so I can get out of my shell and stop being scared to talk to anyone. :S


I just never came out. No issues here <twitch>


>Also, small towns in the South offer only one place for communal gatherings, church, and I don't do church.

Well, there are also concerts, bars, bbqs, community work, political gatherings, etc. Even a yard sale can be a start.


There is nothing that compares to church in the southeast when it comes to social events and getting to know new people. So many varieties of people at all stages of life. If they didn't spend so much time preaching down on people outside of religion I would be at church at least a couple times a week.


The amount of "preaching down" varies a lot by denomination. Pretty common in Southern Baptist churches. Pretty uncommon in Episcopal churches. Catholic churches pretty much depend on the temperament of the pastor.


>There is nothing that compares to church

Not even football?


find a different church. (Unless you're in a town so small that there's only one.)


With the exception of the fine Tea Party and their gatherings, we don't have those things.


What astonishes me is that a lot of people struggle with this, but somehow 'we' all try to fake it.


I see the problem as the fact that people actually feel the need to be social in the first place. If you're fine inside your own head and with your own thoughts, there's less of a pull to need to be social. If I don't like something or I'm not doing well, I want people to know. I want people to be human (in the way I feel I am).


That's a bit self-referential. People not at ease socially are also often not very clear about themselves. How many have a phase (years or decades) where you keep running around and then you finally click and stop caring that much about society's opinions.

An actor said he had deep personality disorders, had to go through therapy for 20 years. He's still as weird, but he doesn't give a f. now. I went through this very slowly too. I knew someone who had the same kind of small epiphany.


Sure, but at the same time, not caring about having to be social is also not giving a f. Works both ways. It could also be said that it's not something to be fixed, but rather a reason to seek out like-minded people.

As an overall example (unconnected with seeking out like-minded people), I'm social when I feel like being social (40% of the time) and not when I don't. For those in a similar situation, to be made to feel bad about themselves and their choices, I don't think that's necessarily helpful.


Have you considered moving to a place with more people like you? It can work wonders.


Good news is social skills is something you can learn.




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