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What you're saying is "The veneer is so civilized! What are you, a savage?"

And what he's saying is "The thing underlying the veneer is pretty savage, which taints the idea that everything is so civilized"

That's a point you seem to completely miss.




I don't think that's accurate. What I'm saying is "taxes are not collected at gunpoint" and also "you will not be executed for failing to pay your taxes". You might be jailed for not paying your taxes. That's not a death sentence.

If the counter-point is that you can escalate the situation by attempting to resist the state's monopoly on violence, then sure. I concede that. I don't believe the thing underlying the veneer is savage. Quite the contrary.


The penalty for rejecting the state's assertion of its authority over you (whether legitimate or not) is generally death. At the hands of whatever agency has noticed your rejection.

So if you think you shouldn't have to pay taxes, because the state isn't a legitimate authority, it's quite likely that you'll end up dying.

Finally while taxes aren't collected directly by a person with a gun, failure to be sufficiently subservient while dealing with the state can result in your death. It's unfortunate that the state grants itself (in all its forms) much, much more privilege or leeway than any non-state actor would enjoy in a similar dispute.

In other words, if you fail to pay a debt to another citizen or non-governmental entity, it's usually handled much, much differently than failing to pay a debt to the government. That double standard definitely doesn't feel right to many folks, and I think that's a very reasonable point to make.




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