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Genuine question here, but why not use dogs for this? Is it because dogs might be too heavy and trigger a mine? What is the activation weight of a landmine?


Because rats will keep at it for longer. These particular rats are probably bigger than some tiny dogs, but a rat is a forager, so it can be motivated to keep this up for hours. This behaviour is not so close to what a dog needs to do to eat, so it would do it to please but lose motivation eventually.

Well that's what I remember reading some years ago anyway. I guess a dog would keep going if you made a fuss of him, but you don't want to go over to the middle of the minefield to do that.


A previous article said they only work the rats for 30 minutes a day.

Small mammals typically don't have a lot of endurance. Dogs and humans are kind of outliers there, as we specifically evolved for persistence hunting.

It's probably just due to mass and ease of training.


But dogs are trained to sniff truffles and definitely stick to it for long, and the process (sniff around, signal to handler, get reward, repeat) seems the same.


Well, that's just what I read...

I'm no longer sure it is accurate. Looking at their website APOPO now actually use dogs as well. They say that rats and dogs are complementary, but they give an advantage of the dogs but not of the rats

Also, I ran across this article criticising the rats effectiveness: https://nolandmines.com/APOPO%20rats.html . I have no way to assess it's accuracy.


But are there more truffles in a forest than there are mines in a minefield?


I'm not sure, I remember going truffle hunting (a grand-uncle owned truffle dogs) and spending a whole morning not finding anything.

Luckily, I never had to go mine-hunting.


Rats a cheaper. How did an Army K9 officer tell me? Rats are much cheaper, but nobody wants to be a rat leader...

But the way: The landmines very likely contain TNT. But this is not what the rat detects. Landmines don't smell like TNT...


The logistics of the rats are cheaper. But the cost basis is probably always going to be the trainers. A trainer's time is much more costly than a dog's needs.



Pretty much. Furthermore, investment is much smaller, upkeep much lower, transportation easier. And since rats live faster, and shorter, lives, you can get new batch of mine detector rats sooner than you would with dogs. Even under optimal conditions.

This means that if something bad happens, say death of multiple animals due to disease or unfortunate accident. The replacement can arrive much sooner.

The downside is that you have to replace them much more often. But the positives outweigh negatives.


Depends on the mine design but generally you need to be able to apply somewhere around 4-5PSI to the trigger to set one off. General designs are made to be buried after arming so it wouldn't do to have a very light trigger mechanism.


a well known Ukranian dog - a small breed one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patron_(dog)

>What is the activation weight of a landmine?

Several kilograms. Children trigger the mines. So a large or a medium dog would usually too.

Given the amount of work to be done after the current war, i'd bet on mass use of flying and ground drones with bomb detectors.


no idea where to find it again or how accurate it is but i watched a documentary about these rats some years ago and it said that they're small enough to be able to navigate minefields without triggering the mines.


Good things... lol


The same could be said for fossil fuels...

https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2023/08/24/fossil-fuel...


Well said


How do you mean?


They are quite famous for using capital punishment for drug trafficking offenses:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Singap...

Usually by hanging.


Caning spoiled ex-pat brats comes to mind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning_of_Michael_Fay


How much energy could possibly be stored in one of those containers? Enough to drive a car 100km? (talk about range anxiety...)

I ask because I know that Hydrogen has terrible energy density per unit of volume, even at scary high levels of pressure (Google says 5.6 MJ/L for compressed hydrogen gas at 700 bar pressure). Compare that with gasoline which is 32 MJ/L (To be clear, I'm not advocating for gasoline as storage medium of energy, just showing the contrast).


Aren’t these fuel cells? Not gaseous hydrogen you combust?

They should be pretty high density from my googling, and they were a core shuttle technology.

“In common energy sources, the energy density (specific energy) is rough as follows: hydrogen fuel (142Mj/Kg) > natural gas (55Mj/Kg) > petrol (46Mj/Kg) > coal (30Mj/Kg) > lithium batteries (generally no more than 1.8Mj/Kg)”


1 kg of hydrogen is roughly 40 kwh of energy - lets assume 50% efficiency to electricity, to reach the energy of a Tesla battery (roughly 100 kwh) you’d need roughly 5 kg of hydrogen. That seems extremely viable as a power source for a car, it can’t be that difficult to compress a few kilograms of hydrogen into a tank..


How much volume does 5kg of hydrogen take up?


Hydrogen at 20C and 1 ATM (ambient gas, basically) has a density of 0.083 kg/m³. So, a 1 cubic meter tank (about the size of a large refrigerator) would have .083 kg of hydrogen at ambient temperature and pressure. If you could increase the density (via increasing pressure, for example) 60x, that would be ~5 KG in a 1 cubic meter tank. 60 ATM is about 800 PSI, or about the pressure of a CO2 cartridge. From Wikipedia, though, car companies are trying to amp the pressure way up to 10x that, presumably to get the tank size down or increase the total energy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_storage


142mj/kg is great, but not if you need a bus size volume to hold 1kg


Does this make more or less likely to be made by aliens in the minds of those that think so?


Naming that one figures the astronaut almost feel like someone is trolling those types. Looks nothing like an astronaut.


It is literally an amogus.. an among us crewmate in the exact format of the meme Like the ultimate case of pareidolia it has been spotted in trashcans, egyptian hieroglyphs as the god Medjed, now here. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was fake due to this meme alone but the sources I see all look completely legit, the image credit guy alone seems almost famous in wikipedia


I must say I don't follow you at all. The two eyes makes it look nothing like an astronaut or the amogus crewmate. The key visual there is a uniform visor, not two circles.


Primarily the two legs, no arms, and backpack Yeah you’re right there are two eyes which doesnt line up but the Internet went crazy for the amogus hieroglyph which also had eyes


It does look a bit like an owl


definitely looks like an owl to me also.


Who knows what a conspiracy theorist thinks? But honestly the fact that geoglyph construction techniques seem to have evolved over at least several hundred years to become ever clearer does seem to be a(n even stronger) point against. If it was aliens, wouldn't they have had the perfect method from the start? In fact, if it was actually aliens, why would they not just burn the images into the soil from orbit with a laser instead of laboriously piling up rocks?


>In fact, if it was actually aliens, why would they not just burn the images into the soil from orbit with a laser instead of laboriously piling up rocks?

They may have tried and accidentally destroyed all the other test planets with their death Star.


My recollection is that the main hypothesis among these crowds (where's the conspiracy?) is that the lines are human made, but in response to 'visiters'.


Yes, that is amazing


The abstract seems to say "Yes, it does."


This looks great too...


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