This was a terrible mistake by Mozilla, but a test pilot for a limited number of users doesn't seem permanently worse than what Google does in regards to privacy.

Moreover, this presumably didn't affect users who installed via a package manager, while with Chrome the installation method doesn't matter.

However I wish Mozilla was publicly funded, so that they don't have to constantly search for alternative revenue sources.

Irrelevant whataboutism. It doesn’t matter what Firefox does, the article is about Google Chrome/Chromium.

he does a lot of space news and rocket videos now; they're very informative

wow! awesome!

reality stings

ok..

nice and vague

abolish government, libertarian paradise, ???, solve problems

I wouldn't say "vague". He cited the differential in dollar amounts and drew a conclusion from the data presented. That sounds specific to me. I think you may have overreacted to his point. You should have debated the merits and demerits of welfare spending versus R&D investment. Instead you accused him of something he never advocated for.

What has chrome ever been "bundled" with? And if it was there was no reason to people to simply not use it.

You just can't admit that Chrome does have its merits for some non-logical reason...

> What has chrome ever been "bundled" with?

The JRE is at the top of my mind.

> You just can't admit that Chrome does have its merits for some non-logical reason

Disagree again. And I don't really understand where you get that from.

I admit Chrome is nice for a lot of people.

The reason why it owns the market today is because it is a decent/good browser (except for its huge privacy issues) and because Google has put an enormous effort behind pushing it everywhere all the time.

that's not how debt works on a national level.... it's not like personal debt at all

I know this is true when the debt is issued by the currency issuer & denominated in that same currency, such as in the case of the United States.

Is that also true in the case of say, Italy's debt denominated in Euros or Illinois state debt denominated in USD? I have been meaning to read Steve Keen's work on this

when Italy was on the lira yes, with the Euro no. Look at how the Greek crisis unfolded.

> Unlike personal debt the fed can just print the money.

A part of why the Fed (and the same is generally true of independent central banks generally) exists (and why the Fed system is comprised of large private banks) is to provide a check (and, more important, confidence among lenders) against Congress simply monetizing the debt by separating the locus of decision making for monetary policy from that for fiscal policy.

Historically that often doesn't really happen with such debts. Instead the debt falls a percentage of GDP due to GDP growing, at least in nominal terms.

It is happening, though. Especially now with tax cuts and increased spending.

Yep, people have been repeating this same meme for a little more than half a decade and the amount of money they make and product they sell has only gone up.

Also the fact that only Apple makes Apple products, as opposed to other Windows/Android computers/laptops/Phones/tablets which have multiple competitors.

So if I didn't voluntarily giving up my privacy for something (an invaluable product to use) you wouldn't let me? Why? It's none of your business what I desire from my personal privacy.

Because your personal valuation is likely very off-the-mark because the consequences of that action may lie far into the future or may actually happen to others and not yourself.

Also, if the product is really "invaluable" to you (e.g. you have no choice but to use it) then your choice to give up privacy wouldn't be voluntary either.

(Edit: added first paragraph)