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svlla · on March 23, 2011

php... a language by amateurs, for amateurs. phpfog... a service by amateurs, for amateurs.

mikey_p · on March 23, 2011

Your argument could also apply to the Linux kernel.

skeletonjelly · on March 23, 2011

I know the point you're trying to make, but it's a weak one.

75% of the kernel is written by corporate employees.

http://apcmag.com/linux-now-75-corporate.htm

mikey_p · on March 23, 2011

True, I don't know what percentage of contributions to PHP are made while in employee of a corporation funding said contributions, but there are commercial supporters of PHP out there. I'm surprised how few people don't know that Zend exists.

The original comment just struck me oddly because I've come to assume that a large portion of the software that I use regularly was originally developed as an amateur project, or by amateurs.

zaidf · on March 23, 2011

75% of the kernel is written by corporate employees.

And that implies what about the kernel?

skeletonjelly · on March 25, 2011

I'm not sure where you're heading with this. I was trying to tell the parent comment that arguing against 'amateur' coders writing php is the same as the Linux kernel was factually incorrect.

galactus · on March 23, 2011

I bet most contributors to php are corporate employees too

smokestack · on March 23, 2011

And we're all aware that this wasn't a PHP exploit, right? Right?

svlla · on March 23, 2011

for all the downvoters, it's pretty undeniable that as far as security is concerned, it was amateur hour at phpfog.

stanleydrew · on March 23, 2011

If you wanted to get that point across, you could have said it much better. Your analogy to the PHP language itself is completely false and not in any way useful.

svlla · on March 22, 2011

accounting can get pretty creative sometimes.

mc32 · on March 22, 2011

Also, tax laws change yearly, so it's not as static as some might believe it to be.

epochwolf · on March 22, 2011

Then you get in loads of trouble with federal authorities.

svlla · on March 21, 2011

they already reached a settlement with Amazon last year. MS is going to get their way with B&N too.

rbanffy · on March 21, 2011

Sadly, it only enables them to troll even more.

svlla · on March 20, 2011

yeah it's not like there's been any recent developments of note in that region at all either, huh

svlla · on March 20, 2011

it's where you go to update your profile to indicate to others that you're looking for a new job.

svlla · on March 17, 2011

Mostly I think it's more a cultural quirk of some European countries and I don't really care all that much. What bothers me more is stuff like this: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2014271060_b...

svlla · on March 16, 2011

and cell phones, texting, wifi, email ... it's about communication in general, yo.

svlla · on March 13, 2011

there's more than one buyer out there for vulns

svlla · on March 13, 2011

heh yeah I prefer vulns that never get disclosed except to clients that can pay a lot more.

svlla · on March 11, 2011

Twitter is a long con just like many other successful businesses, for example Google.

dasil003 · on March 11, 2011

Right. A company providing a free service is probably looking to monetize your data, which is definitely a con job. Clearly you are being robbed by not monetizing your personal information directly.