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That's worrying indeed.

Which merged with MobilePay.

Side note: I stopped using it (in Finland) in the beginning of the year when they launched their new app that exposed users full names (including middle names). On the old MobilePay you were able to set an alias. "For our safety" of course.


Consolidation, it's all VIPPS now. Owned by DNB.


What the fuck do you have against people "ruining their lives"?

I've made a ton of bad decisions in the course of my life. And I'm all richer for it. Don't take that away from me.

I despise the nanny state policies of my homeland Finland. I've been a nomad for the past decade and a half due to it because I don't want to settle down in a place where people think they should be able to force other people to not make what they (or "the majority") think are stupid decisions.

You will always find justifications once you start going down the rabbit hole of "what's best for them".


I believe that making mistakes is an integral part of learning and the way our society views failure is totally wrong. When you’re failing as often as you are succeeding this means you are operating at or near your limit, absolutely something to be proud of.

None of that applies to gambling though. Not only is there nothing to learn from failing that you couldn’t have learnt before placing a bet, but success could mean addiction and the eventual ruination of your life and the lives of those you love.


> None of that applies to gambling though.

Are you sure about that?

> Not only is there nothing to learn from failing that you couldn’t have learnt before placing a bet

Just look at investing with fake money portfolios vs. making decisions with real money. Or playing poker with play money. It's a whole different game mentally and some lessons you just don't learn unless you got a real stake in it.

> but success could mean addiction and the eventual ruination of your life and the lives of those you love.

In my case my success (in poker) led to a prosperous career playing professionally. No lives ruined. YMMV.

Poker, or sportsbetting, is not gambling any more than investing in the stock market is, or choosing a spouse. Sure, you can gamble and YOLO your life savings on either of them. But you can also learn to make better decisions, the hard way. Or try and fail and lose money in the process. Rather than having a small set of "safe" pre-chosen options laid out for everyone.

Disclaimer: Games where you play against the house (that has an edge) like slots or roulette is gambling. But again, just because there are people playing slots to make a profit doesn't mean that we should ban being an idiot. Life is dangerous and you will eventually die from it. This is more of a personal philosophical opinion than a "what's best for people" one (which I think is wrong).


Poker involves skill, I was not talking about poker. Unless you’re unskilled, in which case it’s gambling. Poker done right is a process in which safe failure can lead to skill growth.

Yes, investing on the stock market can be gambling, unless you have inside information or are extremely knowledgeable, you’re not going to beat a monkey. Investing in a diverse portfolio where you’re basically betting on the entire market growing is different.


I know people who got burned with bets or risky investments and stopped doing that.

I also know plenty of failures who are addicted to gambling and drugs.

Gambling, like all drugs, is a mental health / attitude problem.

Life is shit for most people and they think winning big is the only way they'll escape that - and if I lose some money, oh hey, I was poor before, I'm still poor.

We need to put the blame on education and society raising mindless zombies good only to be employees for 40 years and pay off their mortgage (in the best case scenario).


I thought so too but that's because I'm logged in with setting to use old Reddit. www.reddit.com works in incognito.


This is the situation I'm seeing. Didn't occur me that old was down because I just have that as my default setting for www.reddit.com.


"I won't help building roads because criminals might drive on them"

Law enforcement are blaming the road builders, that's what's wrong with the picture.


Yeah same.


One aspect could be overall lower attention attention span, where people start zoning out in the middle of the test and don't try that hard.


I would guess/assume that work phones of MEPs are restricted to a specific set of manufacturers and models, which makes targeting different from having to consider all options.

They might also have specific software installed across most of them that could be part of the targeting.


...or it's non-software-engineers writing those pro-government comments.

(just the logical conclusion of the statement, intentionally made blank)


Why couldn't the software engineers change? The geopolitical scene is much different today, and it's easy to see threats coming from your opposite pole


Can you elaborate what in your opinion changed in the geopolitical scene?


Russian invasion of Ukraine?


That sounds like your ideal. Mine would be when there is no authority that says which plants or substances I can put in my body. I don't want/need an authority to enforce "what's best for me".


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