This sounds similar to feedback I just got on my dissertation's conclusion section. They told me to rewrite it, noting that it should be different, but they weren't sure how. Asked for more detail, they said, "Make it punchier."
That's my contention - why? Isn't that slavish devotion to quoting and sourcing all turns of phrase somewhat limiting? Why do we irrationally consider plagiarism such a horrible blight to be eradicated at all costs?
Respect for your reader, for one. Citations ensure your reader knows that:
A) It isn't your original thought or original words
B) They can look up some certain work by the person if they're interested in more
There's no doubt some level of it that's just academic elitism (don't even get me started on "authoritative sources"), but not deceiving your reader is a good portion of the requirement. It's not just about the fact that you used someone else's words, it's the fact that you did so, and passed off that work as your own.
Why does rephrasing a sentence magically turn a derivative thought into an original one? Why is using someone else's uncited phrasing considered the worst thing in the world? Why is it so vital that every single creative idea goes back to its root source with a full quotation and citation, distracting from the core idea, and shouldn't be creatively remixed or reworked?
It's bizarre and irrational. It's not just academic elitism, it's also about how the notion of copyright has changed our natural creative and communication processes. The natural copying, sharing and evolution of ideas has gone from being a natural of expression and communication into something verboten. Our collective culture, our modern folk tales and songs, are controlled in perpetuity with zero tolerance for "plagiarism". Any derivative ideas may not be retransmitted, reproduced, rebroadcast, or otherwise distributed without the express written consent of the copyright holder.
Quotes help the reader identify possible alternative and even conflicting world views in the source materials. For example, suppose sources A and B come from two different schools of thought about the role of TDD in modern software development. Now I come along at write a new piece on TDD which uses their writings, without citation or quotes.
It's unlikely that my new piece will be cohesive, because source A's quotes use the London school while source B uses the classic school, which use the same terms albeit with different nuances. I might not even realize there is a difference.
While if I quote them, it's possible for a reader to figure out patterns I hadn't noticed in my sources. The citations also act as a normalization (in the relational sense) for how the different ideas are connected. With "Steve Freeman writes '...'" then a reader knows that I'm talking about London school, even if I don't know that.
As an example, look at all of the study of the Bible in order to identify anonymous changes in authorship. The fact that such details can be teased out of the text shows that textual analysis does provide useful information. (Stylometric analysis, which identified Joe Klein as the author of 'Primary Colors', also shows that there is extra information in the text than just the words.) Quotes help reduce the cognitive load for future readers by making these cognitive shifts more clear.
Perhaps the most extreme example of this is Borges' short story 'Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote', which "is often used to raise questions and discussion about the nature of authorship, appropriation and interpretation." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Menard,_Author_of_the_Q...
> Any derivative ideas may not be retransmitted, reproduced, rebroadcast
You are exaggerating. For example, there are any number of derivative work of Tolkien, including parodies like National Lampoon's "Bored of the Rings", or Pat Murphy's rewrite of "The Hobbit" as the space opera "There and Back Again".
These neither infringe upon copyright nor are generally considered plagiarism.
Copyright infringement and plagiarism overlap in how they are created, but they are not the same.
If I quote pages of text, with citation but without permission and beyond the limits of fair use, then that is copyright infringement but not plagiarism.
If I pass off an out-of-copyright 19th century play as my own, then a playwright would call that plagiarism, even though there is no copyright infringement.
The proscription of plagiarism is vital to ensuring that at least some of the credit goes to those who are creative, rather than those who are popular or well-connected.
It sounds like you've gotten anti-plagiarism and copyright mixed up. They are related but very distinct concepts. Anti-plagiarism has nothing at all to say against creative remixing and reworking.
Because plagiarism is stealing ideas or words that someone worked hard to create. It's dishonest, among other things. Also, if you're interested in why we quote and cite sources, I recommend reading Anthony Grafton's history of the footnote!
SUCH a great idea. Is the platform also open to broader art and craft forms (beyond traditional "art") - say quiltmakers or knitters/other fiber artists?
I'm a big tea drinker and would love to see more high quality loose teas available for grab & go. However, I would not be as likely to use TeaBOT if I couldn't use my own reusable cup. Do you have any plans to produce and/or market reusable cups to work with the machine, with the (seemingly) popular filter lid?
(I'd also rather be able to control the steeping time, but I get that that's hard to manage in a to go situation.)
Tea bags on strings make steeping time really controllable.
There are pack-your-own tea bag systems too here in the UK but I think most people would rather just have something good/familiar rather than blend their own weird tea.
Amazing feedback! We hope to allow reusable travel mugs (not yet though). We've been debating this internally, but it's great to hear it from a customer. Would you (or do you) carry a travel mug?
Yes, I do carry a travel mug - specifically one with a removable filter for loose tea. (I actually also have a model where the internal loose-tea-holding-pod can be retracted from the water with a little lever! I think that one's made by Aladdin.)
The university campus where I work, and the city I live in, are both extremely pro-reusable cup, and most places give you a small discount when you use one too.
(ETA Ugh it looks like this thread got killed, annoying.)
I have noticed this too, find it deeply frustrating, and concede that it's a major reason why I find myself feeling less welcome here and less interested in being part of the HN community.
I think the point about higher education being just a means to an end these days is spot on. The product plug at the end is not especially well-integrated into the otherwise interesting and reflective article, though.
I recently learned (via expensive vet visits) that some cats do need to have their teeth brushed daily, or else they risk decay and tooth loss. It's not just vet bs!
Are you asking whether the existence of a group for people who identify as female and are interested in Go is evidence that "tech diversity has gone too far"?
