Pretty much all of them have those "evergreen" listing by the bigger companies.
I'm not sure how it's not fraud to advertise a job that isn't actually vacant at the time. I guess there's no incentive to stop it since it would make the jobs numbers for the economy look like worse.
I think that it's not legally fraud (in the US) because an important component of fraud is that the lie is used to steal something of value from the victims. Advertising a job that doesn't exist doesn't do this unless you're charging an application fee or using the data collected from applicants for a purpose other than what was represented.
The practice is lying, though, and I'll join in the chorus of voices saying that it's terrible behavior.
False advertising is considered a type of fraud because you used false facts to extract, or try to extract, value from someone. If there was no job open, you just cost someone paper, ink, transportation, and time. It's a stetch, but in my book it fits.
The fact you both made it together using each one’s unique skills to solve a real problem from one of you is a good story. Consider adding that information somewhere on the website. Knowing you’re an indie husband and wife team may make some people more comfortable with the prospect of buying.
Would have been a great learning experience for her and been great to put on a resume and discuss during an interview. Because you made this for your wife, who's a developer, even if only a junior developer, it has a whiff of mansplaining to it, too.
Since when does a great learning experience equate to thrown her to the sharks? If I'm providing you with a great learning experience, then I'm not throwing you to the sharks. He could have mentored her and start transitioning her away from being a junior developer.
Dude, you're kinda rude. You try mentoring a junior FE dev into a full stack dev in 2 months and capable to build an app end-2-end with devops and everything.
We do work together on the app so she's learning stuff.
Aside from what the sister comment said, the app being closed source means we can't reliably check what it actually does, how it uses the data and whether it will get us IP bans on the job websites. Paying a subscription for using our own computer's resources and network to scrape the sites is just wrong, I wouldn't complain if it was some web service running in a cloud that just sent notifications though
> Paying a subscription for using our own computer's resources and network
I agree with the rest of your comment, but not sure this part is accurate. People pay for Microsoft Word or Photoshop etc., and then run them entirely on their own computer using their own computer's resources and network.
I should have really worded it better connecting that to the above statements. The problem is that in this particular case a cloud solution would be a better choice for this exact task (unlike for Word or Photoshop). Also the author said they might consider that in another comment
That makes sense in theory, but I'm not sure most people would bother reading the source code.
Regarding your IP banning concerns, since the app only scrapes the links you save it's just like you would manually refresh them in Chrome so don't think this would be an issue (no data to back this up tho, other than my own PC which is running the app continuously and has a ton of links saved for testing).
I made it a desktop app to avoid needing to run expensive cloud resources for scraping (which also includes IP proxies to get around bot detection limits). This would have meant a higher cost for the end user, which I absolutely did not want since it's targeting also unemployed people.
A lot of people have had that complaint and I'm considering building a cloud version with a higher price point, but not a priority right now.
1) they go to your website, you have links to social websites like linkedin.
2) user goes to your linkedin page and there's no single person associated with it.
conclusion: using "internet best practices" it sounds like a scam to me. so in a forum like HN i would expected you could open source it _or_ tell who you are, what data is being sent and collected, etc.
never thought about it that way. I'm a shy person so don't usually like putting my name out there. Also, personally, I've never cared who's behind a product, if I like it, I'll use it.
Your personal traits do not invalidate the arguments given to you. You have to admit that not putting any identify forward AND not making it open-source is making it hard to discern from scam services whose only goal is to farm people's emails and web visiting preferences.
I'd like to use your thing but you must show a bit more goodwill first.
Don't get me wrong, but feel free to not use it if that's a MAJOR issue for you. I don't want to make the source code public because it will be a comercial product. As for my personal info, the username I use here is actually my lastname + firstname if you want to dig me up on linkedin. I do not want to put my name on the app, it's just how I am.
I hope you don't get me wrong as well. I and others are pointing out to you that being shy and undercover (so to speak) involuntarily mixes you in with actual shady folk (who keep information vague for darker purposes).
I've bookmarked your project and will keep a look on it. I don't mind paying for convenience if the product works but for now I'll just monitor and see how it develops.
