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As a programmer I feel that software development as in "designing and building software products" can be still be fun with AI. But what absolutely isn't fun is feeding requirements written by someone else to ChatGPT / Copilot and then just doing plumbing / QA work to make sure it works. The kind of work junior devs would typically do feels devalued now.

I agree. So far I haven't seen production-ready robots doing even relatively simple agricultural tasks, such as picking tomatoes in a greenhouse and taking care of the plants. It's all done by cheap foreign labour. If that's too hard to automate, I'm not yet holding my breath for general purpose household robots either.

Admittedly the videos in this article do seem promising though, would love to see how this tech would perform in a greenhouse.


> So far I haven't seen production-ready robots doing even relatively simple agricultural tasks, such as picking tomatoes in a greenhouse and taking care of the plants. It's all done by cheap foreign labour.

While they aren't widespread, there are production robots being used in many types of agriculture. In fact, it was even trivial to find one working in tomato greenhouses: https://www.arugga.com/technology (this one is used to pollinate tomatoes instead of doing it by hand or using bees).


Yeah, as far as labor market goes "women's liberation" never really happened. The social pressure to have a family didn't really disappear, and yet there's way more pressure to build a career to appease our corporate overlords. Is that really an improvement?

Ultimately capitalism is built so that improved productivity, more working hours, higher salaries never benefit the worker long-term. If people start earning more, the owning class will simply raise prices to match this new level of income. The US is the wealthiest and strongest country in the world, and yet young people there struggle to buy houses just as much (or even more) than their peers in much poorer countries.


> The social pressure to have a family didn't really disappear

All sexually reproducing organisms on the Earth have families without any social pressure and we evolved from primates who work like this.

By far the stronger pressure is biological. I doubt social pressure even comes close to moving the needle.


Unlike most organisms, we’re smart enough to satisfy those urges without having children.

The peak reproductive years are the late teens to late twenties (give or take). However and in modern society, having children in the first two-thirds of the peak years is a recipe for failure or lifelong hardships.


I suspect this will be the future for many devs who develop boring CRUD apps, like ERP. No point having developers who only convert requirements crafted by others to code if LLM's can speed up that part enough. Such basic developer role will largely merge with business person / product owner / project manager role.

Ultimately, I think it's easier to teach business skills to a developer than to teach a business person enough code fluency to produce and deploy working code with help of LLM's.


The working culture in South Korea absolutely seems like hell compared to most of human history. People had much more free time in agricultural societies, and they mostly spent it outdoors, instead of slaving it in the offices doing meaningless work to make shareholders richer.

People starving, born with disabilities/incurable diseases, people at the front line of a war, especially if critically wounded, people caught as a prisoner being tortured, people living their lives as a slave with physical violence and any other serious situations I couldn't imagine, seem like worse than someone at least with physically safe condition and possibly a way to escape if one wants to.

Exactly. And hedonic adaptation makes all that entertainment with phones, TVs etc meaningless.

Lack of free time is hell. Especially if you spend all your days in the same drab office building. Office work is fine in and of itself, but humans are meant to move, to be outside for a good portion of the day. Work-life balance is more important than the latest gadgets.


The young are also susceptible to conspiracy theories. You don't get "media smart" by browsing Tiktok and Instagram, which is all they know how to do.

At least in my country it's hard to find prominent leftist politicians who aren't also liberal.

Nah, Harris wasn't an ideal choice, just like Hillary Clinton wasn't. Ideally for next elections democrats would need someone likable with plenty of charisma and moderate stance on social issues. Being male would be a plus too, unfortunately.

I think Tim Walz would have done better than Harris.


I think so, too. He has a much more direct, down to earth way of talking to people.

Yea, inflation sucks. But it's not like Trump can fix the fact way too much money was printed during COVID crisis. The crisis should have resulted in a major economic depression, but instead we got a big party through stimulus. Now we're suffering from a hangover, and Trump can't change that.

Trump can absolutely reign things in, I don't think anyone thinks he can snap his fingers and 'fix' something broken this badly.

But yeah, he 100% can take a different direction than the administration that printed more USD than had previously existed in the entirety of the countries history.

'Trump can't wave a magic wand and un-do what the current admin did, so it doesn't make sense to change directions best to stick with the current administration that doesn't think there is anything they could or should have done different' is not the rationale for my position.

Just look at how the stock market responded today - clearly I'm not the only person who thinks 'this will position our economy much better than it is today'.


I agree. It actually looks quite similar to the situation here in EU, with traditional leftist parties losing popularity to right-wing populists. Leftist parties should focus first and foremost on protecting worker's rights, anything else should come second. Supporting open migration policy in particular is problematic, as it drives down wages to the very workers who might want to vote leftist parties. People who are struggling financially also don't particularly enjoy hearing how they are privileged because of their gender/skin color or whatever.

The left should simply recognize that distribution of wealth and means of production is the number one factor affecting equality. It's their job to lobby for things like progressive taxation and social safety nets.


There's a common theme here.

People in general are feeling less secure. The rise of the 'precariat' class is a good example of this.

This gives rise to legitimate concerns about immigration. But the left and centrist parties fail to address these concerns - instead blaming people for having them.

I don't subscribe to the idea that everyone voting for right wing parties is a racist xenophobic. Unfortunately the only parties that address the concerns people have are often led by racist xenophobics.

I am definitely left wing, but I blame the left for the rise of the right. They abrogated their responsible to represent people by failing to address their most pressing concerns.


>But the left and centrist parties fail to address these concerns - instead blaming people for having them.

Well what do you want them to do? You suddenly go anti-immigration in a country known as a melting pot, a country where many were once immigrants, and you lose even more votes.

Also, I'll even say we're being tricked by an issue that is actually bipartisan: in a bad economy outsourcing grows to get around strong labor laws. The big companies want immigrants, so this supposed dream of mass deportation is one of a fools'. If you don't want people taking your jobs, make stronger job protections, not blame the people worse off than you.

But sadly, deflecting blame to feel powerful seems to be a universal concept. Crabs in a bucket.


> Leftist parties should focus first and foremost on protecting worker's rights

They should focus first and foremost on improving the economic condition of the average American. The low income, as well as the middle class slipping into poverty. Worker's rights is a major part of that, but only one part of it. Watching the prices of basic necessities like housing, food, and healthcare while billionaires and corporations are making record profits is bound to piss off the people.

That said, Trump certainly isn't going to make any of that better. In fact, it'll all get much worse, but on the slim chance democrats actually try to win voters back vs just counting on America to come crawling back to save the US from the four year shit show we've just started and if our new dictator allows us to have fair elections in the future, I think you've got the right idea for where they can start.


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