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Exactly. I can live with everything but that left aligned repository layout.


I am quite curious about the demographics of HN. My guess is most of us here are 30+.

Since this is the top story right now, this will give us a vague idea about the demographics.

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Why does USA not have a system like UPI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Payments_Interface)? It simpler, easier and cheaper (mostly free).


Most countries, let alone the USA, do not have a system like UPI.

That UPI was agreed upon by enough people was a happy accident for India.


Whilst not quite UPI, the UK has a pay-via-text (sms or Whatsapp) system that nearly every person has access to but barely anyone uses. It amazes me how people naturally gravitate to card-based payments, even when Visa and MasterCard are taking a cut.


UPI must be the single greatest thing that have come out of India in recent years; digital payments made absolutely simple.


Having done a UPI integration for a well-known multinational tech company, I consider it a mixed bag. For the end-user it's a great concept and continues to revolutionize payments in India. It's convenient and it will help India transition away from a cash economy. UPI is clearly the future.

However, UPI currently has a lot of problems. Number one is that to use UPI as a payment method for your product you have to integrate with one of India's banks, which in my experience are almost uniformly technically very bad. They provide almost no documentation, have frequent and often severe service outages, and don't even come close to meeting their availability SLAs. I'm sure over time it will improve but as it stands many of India's banks are not technically capable enough to support UPI with the level of reliability that most businesses require.


> have to integrate with one of India's banks

what you mention as a disadvantage is the biggest advantage. cut out the card men.

Banks' technical prowess will catch up. That is the solution. Not introducing a middle man just because he is technically better now.


Which is the same idea as SEPA-ICT or the German girocard system.

Cut out the middle men, the card companies, and suddenly everything is 2-3% cheaper, and faster, and simpler.


Cut out the middle men, the banks, use Bitcoin and you'll shave even the rest of the fees off.


There are middle men in bitcoin. In fact, there are a million middle men. But you trust those million men, rather than the 10 who run the bank.

Anyways, it's about how much money you're willing to spend for trust/safety/risk-mitigation/speed.

Cost of item - $100

$100.05 - pay via Bitcoin. In case of fraud, suck it up.

$102 - pay via Bank. In case of fraud, complain to bank, who are slow to resolve it.

$105 - pay via CC, (and pay them via Bank). In case of fraud, complain to CC company, who are faster in resolving it.

Both Bank and CC are basically an escrow service. One provides a bit more security than other, and correspondingly charges more for it.

If you're OK with not needing that security, cut out the middle men.

Going along your analogy lines, cut out even the Bitcoin middle man, or any kind of currency, and directly barter/trade goods.


Actually, let’s compare real cost and duration.

Cost of item: $100

SEPA: $100.00 (<15 seconds, irreversible)

GiroCard: $100.13 (< 5 seconds, medium to reverse)

Bitcoin: $100.57 (< 20 min, irreversible)

Bitcoin (SegWit): $100.41 (< 20min, irreversible)

MasterCard/VISA: $102.50 (< 30 days, easy to reverse)


Maybe my numbers are wrong. But my point was to say that each system has its advantage/disadvantages

Anycase, I'm in favor of the bank-bank Indian UPI & German SEPA system.


Yes, there are middlemen in Bitcoin, but there are also ways around them, unlike in banking.

And yes, I definitely trust million of men who are constantly checking each other, rather than 10 bankers who found out that sticking together makes them more money.

That fraud argument is a double edged sword because I might be on the receiving side and falsely accused of fraud as any small business hit with chargebacks would confirm. When it's sent, it's sent, that's how it should be, no backsies. In the CC world you never know. Plus there are also escrows if you really need them, except unlike in banking world, Bitcoin escrow won't force you to eat a 30% haircut on your savings account when the bankers fuck up the whole economy while paying themselves big bonuses.


Bitcoin is actually more expensive than SEPA transfers or girocard payments, and slower to resolve (and just as impossible to reverse as SEPA transfers).


That doesn't match my experience. I've never paid 3 EUR for bitcoin transaction and it never took a day, but SEPA does.


Which bank is this? Since 2014, SEPA-ICT has been introduced, and since this year, every bank should support it.

Normal SEPA transfers are mandated to be free and < 24 hours, and SEPA-ICT transfers are mandated to be < 1.5€ and < 15 seconds, but most banks implement those for free.

As you can freely choose any bank in the EU, you might want to consider German Commerzbank, which implements free < 15 seconds transfers to any other SEPA bank (except for student accounts, those have to pay 1.50€ for those transactions).


Why isn't there a central bank provider for this? Now every bank has to implement their own.


There is a central provider called NPCI (National Payments Corporation of India). They run the entire network and control who gets on or not. Banks are used as the integration point because UPI necessitated a bank account to run out of. Since you’re directly debiting money out of someone’s account you can’t exactly turn away the bank and when they are on-board it makes sense to use them as an integration partner for legal reasons (as well as customer support).


The merchant's bank account should be just a parameter you plug into some account at NPCI, and that's it.

Sure, the banks should do the chargeback/fraud management, but the IT interface toward the merchants should be completely standardized.


> IMO the 2015 MacBook Pro is the best Mac out there, mainly because of its beautiful retina display, perfect weight, and most importantly, a good keyboard.

Yep. 2015 Macbook Pro is the last best mac. Probably this is why refurbished 2015 MBP commands premium over other models.


That's funny, because I call the Late 2013 MBP the last best one :) Among other things, it was the last one to feature a physical trackpad click, as opposed to the fake "taptic engine" all-glass trackpad of the 2014 and newer which doesn't physically move when you click (similar to newer iPhones).


To be honest, I actually prefer the fake click of the new trackpads. It feels very real, it's not at all comparable to the taptic feedback on the buttonless iPhones.

The fake click feels so real that people don't even realise it's a fake click if you don't tell them.

The mechanical trackpads only allowed clicking in the bottom half (since it was a hinge), and in my experience it was unreliable. After a few years, clicks started registering twice, or not at all, etc.

The fake click track pad allows clicking everywhere, it lets you configure activation force, and for me it has been working flawlessly every day for years.


My trackpad stopped clicking one morning and I was worried that maybe battery expansion was keeping it from being pressed down.

Then I finally remembered it was haptic feedback and a reboot fixed it. I had completely forgotten it was not a real click.


I can confirm this, as I am an owner of two 2018 Macbook Pros for 7 months and I did not even realize that the click was fake !


The haptic trackpad works beautifully imo, you can click anywhere, there is force click, the clicky sound can be turned on or off, the feedback can be adjusted. And to me it feels real.


I honestly thought I wouldn't like the fake clicking, but I ended up liking it after I used it for a day!


I can never sent to click and drag successfully with the new track pad. Plus it is needlessly big


Don't know where you got this idea. My mid-2014 MBP has a physical click, where the trackpad actually sinks when I press on it.


Ah right, it turns out I misunderstood the EveryMac page about the Mid-2014 [0], with the wording 'a "no button" glass "inertial" multi-touch trackpad'. Thought that was their wording for the non-moving trackpad! haha :) It's the 2015 that had the taptic engine trackpad first, I think.

[0] https://everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook...


Does it click when the power is off?


Yep! And I can see it physically depressing when applying pressure.


Oh, turns out I was one model off, the next model afterward ("Mid 2014"[0]) still had the physical trackpad click, while they introduced the taptic engine with the Early 2015 model[1]. I misunderstood the EveryMac description of the features!

[0] https://everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook...

[1] https://everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook...


My 2012 one jammed up one day and the glass actually shattered upon a click. Still works and somehow I'm not getting splinters, but that's definitely an inherent flaw in the physical keyboards as batteries expand over time.


I don't think this is accurate, the 2015 MBP I am using now has a physical click (pad has vertical travel).


Is it definitely 2015? Starting "Early 2015" they had the taptic trackpad https://everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook...


Pardon the wild analogy but I think it says something about this era. Star Wars 7 and 8 were already sold cheaper than the original movies on Youtube movies.

Why so much "new" is actually worse these days..


Sturgeon's law: 90% of everything is crap. 90% of movies from 1977 were crap, but we only remember the ones that weren't, like the original Star Wars. Comparing all movies of today to the best movies of the past is unfair.


It's not really the same here. Both SW trilogies made rounds of moneys worldwide (ep 7 is in the top 10 I think). But the latest movies, which are brand new, and were somehow successful are already deprecated. It's like processed food, taste doesn't last.


I think they discount the newest movies so they can get as many people to watch them as they can in order to sell them related merchandise. It is Disney Star Wars after all.


Most merchandise I've seen in stores (e.g. LEGO) is from the old trilogy, though.


honestly I don't buy it (sic)

even with plausible disney merch. strategy, to me it's a clear and sad sign of some issue in entertainment production


It's part of getting older.

Not many things quit at their peak. You tend to notice less things which were past their peak when you were growing up and remember things which peaked while you were around.

It might have something to do with why people get more conservative as they get older. There's a bias towards thinking things were better before than they are now when people just don't remember the crap from when they were younger and things actually are pretty much the same (or really are generally getting better by most metrics)


Nono it's not my tastes. I'm speaking about youtube pricing. Even they realize that new sequels don't hold much value, even though to most of their audience (new generations using youtube often) has no reference to favor the past movies from the new.


Oh I meant it in a different way, maybe I could rephrase:

You have a tendency to notice things getting worse that you personally experience. When you're younger you have had less time to experience something you care about declining than when you're older which leads to a cognitive bias where it seems that things were generally better when you were young.

However old you are, there were plenty of things in decline when you were young that you just didn't notice or care about because you never experienced them at their best and are much less likely to experience them. So many people have experienced Star Wars because it's super culturally relevant, but slide down that scale and there will be tons of things your parents saw the decline of that you might not even know existed.


> Why so much "new" is actually worse these days..

New stuff in general is not worse. New versions of old things quite often are! So upgrade your taste and try new things instead of newer versions of the old things you know you like, because with these you're very likely to be disappointed.

In this context maybe the answer would be to try something else than a macbook. Tbh, and iPad pro capable of running Xcode and docker would rock for me.


Indeed. I have an iPad Pro that admittedly doesn't see much use because I'm very much tied to my MacBook, but having played with iPadOS I'm blown away by it and I had a very sudden realisation of "So this is where Apple's development efforts have gone!".

I can't wait until the day where I can genuinely do some development on an iPad.


Regression to the mean may be part of it. Even for a master of their craft success and quality will depend on random factors beyond skill, so pieces of work following a great one are more likely to be worse than better, assuming skill remains constant.


I wonder if people at apple know this and what they think on the matter.


:waits patiently for input from throw_away6747357:

c'mon we won't tell


I actually think it was the fully loaded 11” 2015 MBA. But. Regardless, they don’t make em like they used to.


Chrome 69 on Mac puts Close/Minimise/Maximise buttons in an additional bar when in fullscreen mode. It's super irritating to see an additional bar when you move mouse to top of screen.

I have downgraded to Chrome 68 and disabled auto updates.

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/D0dB6j...


Disabling updates is really bad idea. Maybe it is still possible to switch back to old functionality using chrome://flags ?


I tried looking for config options but couldn't find any. I am just a version behind. Will resume auto updates when they fix this annoying behaviour.


Browsers run remote code locally.

Disabling any browser's auto-update is one of the worst computer security ideas in 2018.

Be a good netizen and reactivate those auto-updates or simply uninstall Chrome.


wow that is super annoying, makes full screen unusable.


I built a kind of similar stuff as a side project in 2011 - [redacted]. It allowed you to leave notes for a URL which your friends / followers can see when they visit that URL.

In the beginning when I was testing this with my friends and colleagues, I sent every URL a user visited to the server to check if any of his friends have left any notes and then alert him via notification badges. I disabled it when I started seeing a lot of private URLs (like Google Docs links with share access) in server logs. I then changed the extension to query server only when a user clicks on extension button.

This made it a bit safer, but the extension still needed access to all the sites a user visits. And with Chrome's auto updation of extensions, one may never know if the extension author has started sending every URL back to server again.

After developing such extension, I am quite suspicious such extensions and only install extensions from trusted authors (Buffer, Pocket, etc).


I agree and will say that I'm as pleasantly surprised by the review process Mozilla has for its add-ons -- as I am dismayed that Chrome has no equivalent process. I'm in-queue of the Firefox review (takes on average 10 days) and have exchanged emails with their volunteer-team on best practices to adopt.

Ultimately it comes down to winning the user's trust, and I'm trying to address as many questions as I can up front.

In response to another comment, I've also un-minified the Chrome extension code and will keep it un-minified going forward (will take up to an hour to propagate [update: fresh installs are now un-minified / and the current-install base will get the update within 6 hours])


In India, pre-pay call rates are like 1.5 cents per minute and 2-3 USD for 1 GB of data. Data gets cheaper with volume. Nearly all of texting happens via WhatsApp.

My and most of my friends' monthly costs do not exceed 500 INR (~8 USD).


kind of like payday loans?


WhatsApp is successful because it is just a simple messaging app and is free of any bloat that converts it to a platform.


I wish Facebook fades into oblivion like Myspace.


In my opinion that is highly unlikely.

For one thing, myspace was largely a network of early adopters. Therefore it was not a surprise these people would look for something new soon.

For another thing, "everyone" is on facebook and thus it is not convenient to leave. Most people don't like change after all. We all know how long people stuck with IE6 (and that was just a browser).

I'd say we have 2+ decades of FB ahead of us.


We'll need a replacement for all the pleebs to use.


I fear any replacement will be just as bad.


Use Diaspora.


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