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Says a lot about Google Ventures that when something goes south with one of their investments they'll go to the press and slam you.

Not the first time either.

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-happened-between-google-...


Well, MG Sigler and Kevin Rose are/were there. MG is the vindictive type, and to be honest, I see it as one of the Four Horseman of The Bubblepocaplypse that reports (and terrible ones at that) are becoming VCs.


Samsung Electronics is a publicly traded corporation and the market value is what it would cost to acquire them (plus some premium). This is sort of academic because it would be a dumb use of Apple's cash to acquire them and probably wouldn't be approved.


So is Apple, and Samsung has nation state support it can use as leverage in a buyout (Since we're trading stupid buyout scenarios)


That part about Andreessen warning about "risks" was really just a response to Bill Gurley sounding the alarm in a WSJ story. Until that time if you followed Andreessen on Twitter, you'd see him talking down the idea of a tech bubble, mocking Janet Yellen for her warning about valuations in social media, etc. It was basically that or go against another prominent VC in a fight about valuations. And this is not like the rest of Wall Street, there's not going to be any Icahn vs. Ackman style fights in the VC world. Relationships matter too much.

But at least 10 years from now once the current cycle has come to an end Andreessen can point to that one time he was on the record as warning about "risks" when really his M.O until then was to talk up valuations.


2/10 troll



It's really amusing that so many of you actually think that Apple is threatened by Pebble in the slightest that they would remove apps that supported it.


Pebble actually has more units moved than any other smart watch at the moment. Samsung is second, followed by various Android Wear companies, and then Apple is last. More than threatened, right now they are completely beaten.


It's really amusing that you actually think that Apple isn't threatened.

Pebble is a competitor (and arguably among the most significant, if not the most significant) in a space which Apple seeks to enter. Of course they're threatened. Otherwise, they wouldn't be removing apps solely because they have the word "pebble" in their metadata.


I love that coders are all worried about their "craft" being devalued while these are the very same people that will unironically tell music artists that they should sell t-shirts and to do concerts.

Well my friends, like the music industry it's time to adapt. It's time to start selling t-shirts.


Not all of us feel that way... I've having such a rotten time finding the digital music that I actually want that I'm quite ready to go back to CDs.


That’s just you getting old, I think? Also, I’m not really sure what the medium has to do with that.


Nope, we're talking fairly modern things, I think. Film scores from 5-10-year old blockbusters? Countless unavailable on streaming services, many unavailable on iTunes/Amazon. Still can be found on CD no problem.

Not just audio either. It's 2015, where can I buy a legal digital download of any episode of Star Wars? Nowhere.


was thinking exactly the same. "Spotify not paying enough ? stop complainingf,just go sell tshirts ...",well too bad, soon "app developers" will earn as little peny as I earn with Spotify.


Ironic given how the rhetoric suggested the "walled garden" was an evil to be avoided. Over time Apple is being proven right.


I can still sideload apps onto my android device, no? I don't view a monitored app store as a "walled garden", I consider it a convenience. I view limiting what I can install as a "walled garden" and Apple definitely falls into that category.


A great ad for Apple's security.


I agree. When the intelligence community has to resort to this, I think the everyman is ok:

>At the 2011 Jamboree conference, there were two separate presentations on hacking the GID key on Apple’s processors. One was focused on non-invasively obtaining it by studying the electromagnetic emissions of — and the amount of power used by — the iPhone’s processor while encryption is being performed. Careful analysis of that information could be used to extract the encryption key. Such a tactic is known as a “side channel” attack. The second focused on a “method to physically extract the GID key.”


Nice of Elon Musk to open source Tesla's patents, will make things easier for Apple.


Yes. And now wait for Apple to do the same reciprocally... if only.

In reality, they are more likely to get a patent on some trivial detail, turn around, and start suing the pants off Tesla for having the temerity to steal their 'inventions' - slide to unlock, revisited.


Net win for the world (and the point of opening up the patents.)


Who would you rather buy from though? The innovator, or the imitator?

Price may be the differentiating factor, but I think most ppl would choose the innovator.


Are you kidding me? Almost Apple's entire product line has been very polished, stylish imitations (Xerox Alto -> Apple PC, Diamond Rio -> iPod, Blackberry -> iPhone, Microsoft Tablet PC -> iPad) with some incremental improvements, and they've been extremely popular.

I think history has shown that most people will choose the imitator, if the imitation is a good one.


The Mac was not an imitation Alto. Xerox tried and failed subsequently to commercialize the Alto. The iPod was not an imitation Diamond Rio; the iPod could fit in your pocket and hold most people's entire music collection, rather than a few dozen songs. IPhones are not Blackberries; the latter were black & white email centric keyboard centric non-touch business centric devices with modest compute and consumer media features and no comparable app & music ecosystem. iPads are not Microsoft Tablet PC's. Microsoft has launched generations of tablets going back to the late 80's/early 90's, none of which were very successful.


Ah, the old "incremental improvements" canard.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/05/16/creation-myth


People buy from whoever makes the best product at the best price.

Regular consumers can careless about who had the original idea, they only care about who executed best.


> People buy from whoever makes the best product at the best price.

People buy from whoever does the best marketing (that is, whoever makes them feel like they are getting the best product for them.)

> Regular consumers can careless about who had the original idea

(Nitpick: "careless" is not the same thing "care less")

Regular consumers probably do care about originality, which is why being "the original X" often plays a key role in marketing, in products in a wide array of different markets. If it wasn't something consumers tended to care about, it wouldn't likely be a perennial marketing point.

It is, of course, not the only thing consumers care about, obviously.

> they only care about who executed best

Arguably, they don't care directly about who executed best, they care about who they trust to execute best for them. Evidence about having executed well to others, like being the original in a category, may be indicators by which consumers judge that likelihood.


Most people don't decide which product to buy based on who was first. If a competitor produces a quality alternative, they will compare the two and buy the one they like more (Where the product they like more is subjective and base on many factors).


I think Apple has a big enough name that them being the "imitator" won't scare anybody off. I also think that Apple is a bigger household name than Tesla.


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