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Did you really just compare Catalonia: A bunch of rich, entitled Spanish brexiter equivalents to Kurds who are being slaughtered by ISIS, Assad, Russia, and Türkiye?

Really???? I spend 2 months per year in Catalonia. There are no kids without legs in the streets. There are not 4 million refugees there.

Catalonia is identical to a bunch of Rich British wankers feeling that they are entitled to "more".


Please don't take HN threads further into political or nationalistic flamewar. Perhaps the GP was provocative, but on HN the idea is not to take provocation and definitely not to blow it up much larger.

We'd appreciate it if you'd read and follow the site guidelines, which you broke badly with this post.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


No.

Hacker News has become a forum for uber nationalistic right-winged libertarians. Be them Israeli, Catalanian, Amurrikkkan, or other, HN lays somewhere in-between 4chan and the daily stormer.

Imma keep posting what I want, Adolf.


People with passionate politics usually perceive Hacker News as favoring their enemies. This is a cognitive bias: the comments we dislike make a stronger impression than the comments we agree with, so it feels like the community is against us. In reality, it's a large community with a wide spectrum. The people with opposite politics notice the opposite comments and so have the opposite picture of HN. Here are some examples from what I assume is the opposite side to yours:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21192430

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20956287

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20645202

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20644122

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20438487

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20384662

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20202305

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19912334

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19471335

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19325297

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18664482

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18544961

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18189135

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17197581

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17002125

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16997697

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16947646

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16397133

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16134205

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16085548

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16061393

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16058468

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16022748

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15937781

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15752730

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15585780

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15388778

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15307915

Sorry for bombarding you with ridiculously many links, but maybe that makes the point better.


Catalan here (and not exactly rich). I think OP's comment was completely out of place, but trying to disregard the independence movement as rich guys entitlement is a an extremely distorted representation of the political reality of Catalonia.


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They also have the potato, their complaint is about having to share it with poorer people. :P


They re just looking for the right metaphor to use :p


I think the comparison in situation/contrast in international attention being made is more between Catalonia and Hong Kong. There's certainly a ton of other important issues causing the unrest, but there is a certain element of xenophobia/ superiority complex in play in Hong Kong as well, that has been simmering for many years.

https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3032041/hong-ko...?


this is getting downvoted but its essentially true. The separatism in Catalonia has strong roots in a sort of local superiority complex, not oppression. It's similar to Lega in Northern Italy.


Are you sure that, existence of separate language and suppression of Catalan culture during the Franco period have nothing to do with the desire to have separate country, and only some strange superiority complex causes it?


Why does anybody still use Chrome? Really, Google is a criminal data theft organization.

Why not just take all of your browsing data and publish it online, skip the middle man?


It's real convenient to have all my browser preferences follow me when I boot up my browser on another computer.


If ever there were an appropriate time to invoke Godwin's law.


Uh, so what, this is tech.

I started making 6 figures a few weeks after my 18th birthday, over 20 years ago. I've worked with hundreds, if not thousands of people in their teens, or under 23, who made 6 figures. That's the industry, it's not even worth mentioning.

These posts are always just lame humble brags with a contrite anecdote or two and a weak inspirational ending. yawn.


Right now, yes, and in the dot com bubble, yes, but from 2002 until probably 2010, six-figure entry-level salaries weren't so common.

But I agree that for the last ~7 years, making six figures in tech hasn't been anything notable.


Looking at my records, around February 1994 was when I hit $100k, and I'm really a medicore engineer.

This formulaic post is just sad. It's almost as bad as reading Oleg's posts on LinkedIN. I hired a FELON!


It doesn't work that way. At that point, they cease being militants and become warlords.


Agreed, I know at least a dozen atheist Jews who are Jewish ethnically (Sephardic / Ashkenazi) / culturally, but not religiously.


> Punk's original ethos was "I don't like my parents' music and culture and I don't know how to play an instrument but I still wanna express myself".

This isn't even close to the reality. You might enjoy reading a book entitled, "Please Kill Me: The Unauthorized Oral History of Punk Rock", by Legs McNeill (he coined the term Punk).

The Ramones were kids who had an intense love of post-war Americana. Inspired by late '60s/ early '70s glam-rock & proto-punk scenes, they wanted to bring back to the garage which had been lost to 10 minute soloing prog-rock bands and soulless disco music. I feel like "We Want The Airwaves" is the "Why?" section of /ramones/README.md.

The Clash? Mick Jones and Topper Hedon were very well-versed musicians. Joe Strummer was a passable rhythm guitarist, but was an amazing lyricist.

Sex Pistols? They were the boy band of the MacLaren empire.


None of that seems to have anything to do with their ethos. Yes, The Ramones, the shittiest punk band that ever existed, was basically making bad 50s music. The Clash and the Sex Pistols were absolutely fed up with their parents' generation. Who gives a shit if they were taking advantage of pop idols and trying to make themselves "bad boys"? Clothing and the ability to shred isn't an ethos.


> and so were Nazi skinheads, although they sucked. But as you say, opinions vary.

Nazi skinheads are alcoholic sociopaths who dream of an authoritarian, fascist world dictatorship. I'm not sure how that fits the punk ethos?


In parallel, how about hiring an army of nerds to defeat meddling in the election both by foreign agents, and by agents hired by domestic politicians. Social media and hackers have more power than corporations now. It's easier to manipulate the people with anger than it is to manipulate politicians with bribes.


Palantir called me yesterday for a pretty senior position. I politely told them that they would need to pay me $500k just to talk to them, and they said they could probably make a $750k/year package.

I responded by sending the recruiter some doctored emails of Peter Thiel having sexual relations with a pig, and a copy of our constitution. He never responded, I don't know if I'm going to get the job.

Anyways, it makes me wonder. I used to believe that the people I worked with were generally ethically good people who stayed true to their own values, whatever they are. I told a friend of mine about this story, and he asked if I could refer him in, an that $200k was his sell-out number.

Personally a long series of tragedies in my life ensured I just don't give a $@$!$@! about money, and I have zero sell-out number.

What about you. Would you work for Palantir or an equally despicable company?


I would work for Palantir for about 100k and no other abnormal terms. Sorry to burst your bubble. It's a cold world out there and I've bills to pay and dreams to finance.


:( I'm sorry to hear that. Have you considered getting a job as a developer? I hit $100k just before my 19th birthday and have never been below it since (I'm almost double now), nor had problems finding work.


Isn't that the question posed by Black Mirror's Waldo episode?


Maybe? Haven't watched television in 20 years.


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